The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS.  


Our Homepage Donation to Forum Overhead Recipes Smoke Signals Magazine Welocme Merchandise Associations Purchase Subscription Amazon Affiliate
Go Back   The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS. > Discussion Area > Competition BBQ

Notices

Competition BBQ *On Topic Only* Discussion regarding all aspects of Competition BBQ. Experiences competing or visiting, questions, getting started, Equipment, announcements of events, Results, Reviews, Planning, etc. Questions here will be responded to with competition BBQ in mind.


View Poll Results: Have you ever cheated, knowingly, at a contest and got by with it?
YES 2 1.20%
NO 165 98.80%
Voters: 167. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-26-2008, 08:28 AM   #1
River City Smokehouse
is One Chatty Farker
 
River City Smokehouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-25-05
Location: Jefferson City, Missouri
Default Cheating at a Contest

Have you ever cheated knowingly at a contest and got by with it?
You don't have to respond....just vote honestly. Your names won't appear or record for viewing.
__________________
"Please let me be the person my dog thinks I am." ~Author Unknown
8 x 18 Haulmark Trailer
Fast Eddy FEC 100
Traeger Texas BBQ 075
UDS "Cool Hand Luke"
3 Weber Kettles and a Yellow Thermapen
KCBS Certified BBQ Judge #8425
River City Smokehouse is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 08:41 AM   #2
Sawdustguy
Quintessential Chatty Farker
 
Sawdustguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-14-05
Location: Vernon, Connecticut
Default

Why cheat? These contests are a measure of our ability to produce quality turn-ins versus the other teams. If one were to cheat it isn't a true measurement of your ability. I pity those who attempt to cheat. Why would someone take such a chance to jepordize their teams integrity. If someone needs to cheat to win they are missing the concept of why we participate in these events in the first place.
__________________
Guy (Pitmaster)
BBQ Team: Lawn Guyland Smokers

Stupidity for Dummies

…because sometimes, you just can’t dumb it down enough…
Sawdustguy is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 08:47 AM   #3
Smokin' Gnome BBQ
is Blowin Smoke!
 
Smokin' Gnome BBQ's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-31-07
Location: Shippensburg PA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawdustguy View Post
Why cheat? These contests are a measure of our ability to produce quality turn-ins versus the other teams. If one were to cheat it isn't a true measurement of your ability. I pity those who attempt to cheat. Why would someone take such a chance to jepordize their teams integrity. If someone needs to cheat to win they are missing the concept of why we participate in these events in the first place.
well put!
Smokin' Gnome BBQ is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 08:52 AM   #4
Ron_L
Moderator
 
Ron_L's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-09-04
Location: Chicago 'Burbs
Default

I would be very concerned if we see any YES votes.
__________________
"Ron Rico, Boss. You can call me Captain Ron..."

*** BBQ Brethren Chicago Area Picnic is scheduled! Saturday, August 19th! Spread the word!!!


The Naked Fatty!

3x Hunsaker Cans/Southern Q Limo Elite Gravity Fed/FEC-100/Memphis Pro SS/PBC/LBGE X 2/SBGE/Mini BGE/Good-One Model 42/WSM X 2/Cookshack Smokette 008/Weber Performer/Saber Cast 500/Weber Kettle X 2/Weber Smokey Joe/WGA/BS Pizza Oven
Ron_L is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 09:45 AM   #5
Bigdog
somebody shut me the fark up.
 
Bigdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-17-03
Location: Wichita, Kansas
Default

I would be very surprised if we saw any yes votes for 2 reasons.
1) The quality of the people here.
2) Most cheaters are also lier's too. The prisons are full of Innocent people. Just ask them (not that I would know anything about this). I learned that from watching Shaw-shank Redemption.
__________________
Bigdog
Senior member of the Brethren
Weber Platinum Kettle, Weber OTS, Meco square grill, ECB, UDS, WSM, a camping grill, Blackstone flat top X 2,The MOAB, and now the proud owner of a YS640, MOINK.
Pitman for Andy Groneman at the All Things BBQ cooking classes.
Smoke on Brother KC
Father of the Fatty (the name) 4/20/04 on the BBQ Brethren with inspiration from Brother parrothead.
Bigdog is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 09:56 AM   #6
Smokin Gator
Babbling Farker
 
Smokin Gator's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-01-06
Location: Fernandina Beach FL
Default

I cannot even imagine thinking about cheating at a comp.

While I am sure I have inadvertently broken a rule like not having the fire extinguisher out or not having the bleach in the water, I would never cheat at a comp.
__________________
[SIZE="2"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Food! It's the second most important thing to a young man, and the most important to an old one.[/FONT][/SIZE]

______________________________________________
-Brent
Smokin Gators BBQ Team

Medium Amazin' Blue Spicewine - It's a Swamp Thing
UDS
Large BGE - Adopted
Medium BGE - Adopted
Weber 22 inch w/mods
Weber SJP
Stoker
Weber Genesis Silver C Gasser
Constant wood lurker
FBA CBJ
Smokin Gator is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 10:01 AM   #7
BBQ_Mayor
is One Chatty Farker
 
BBQ_Mayor's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-14-07
Location: Cambridge,Ia
Default

I don't think that you'll yes votes or I should say, I hope we don't. Like Bigdog said, "The quality of people here"

Anyway, there is no need to cheat. Just do the best you can and let the reps take it from there.
The only people that could cheat are the people inputing the data from the score sheets. Think about that one.
__________________
Ray
Smokehouse 72 Competition Cooking team
Visit our Facebook page - Smokehouse72
WSM, Whole Hog Lousianna pellet Smoker
IPT pellet Smoker and Gateway Drum
CBJ #4643
BBQ_Mayor is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 11:05 AM   #8
YankeeBBQ
is One Chatty Farker
 
Join Date: 02-07-06
Location: boston ma
Default

Ok I have to come clean. We did cook a contest without getting our meat inspected one time. It was not intentional and by the time we realized it we had already rubbed the meat. We did bring the meat to the contest raw and untreated. It wasn't what i would call cheating but I suppose it was against the rules.
__________________
Steve Farrin
KCBS BOD member. Thank you for your support.

This post is my opinion and mine alone, not necessarily that of the KCBS, it's board of directors or office nor that of Peter Pan, Tinkerbell and certainly not Rush Limbaugh.
YankeeBBQ is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 11:46 AM   #9
VGuilford
is Blowin Smoke!
 
VGuilford's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-01-07
Location: Raymore, Mo. South of Kansas City
Default

I can say I've not competed, so I haven't. I will be doing my first in Sept. and I won't.
__________________
See Ya in the Smoke!!!
Vern
MooCow BBQ
www.moocowbbq.com
KCBS CBJ
Texas Smoker
Oklahoma Joe Original
Vermont Castings Gasser
Turkey fryer
Little Smokey Joe
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MoFo Chapter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
VGuilford is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 11:54 AM   #10
Brewmaster
is One Chatty Farker
 
Brewmaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: 07-05-07
Location: St. Louis
Default

Seriously, what can be gained by cheating. Can you really turn out a better product by cheating? I might want to cheat at home.

I did use a microwave at a contest once to cook my brisket. It was a little tough and it was bad news when I wrapped it in foil. I don't think I'll do it again.

Cheers,

Nate
Brewmaster is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 12:11 PM   #11
Scottie
Quintessential Chatty Farker
 
Scottie's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-03-06
Location: Chi-Town
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by YankeeBBQ View Post
Ok I have to come clean. We did cook a contest without getting our meat inspected one time. It was not intentional and by the time we realized it we had already rubbed the meat. We did bring the meat to the contest raw and untreated. It wasn't what i would call cheating but I suppose it was against the rules.

That is probably my biggest fear of competing. To start working on my meat before you are inspected... And having a not so sympathetic rep...

Is Shigging cheating? I am seeing more and more teams Shigging. While it's not cheating the KCBS rules, why even try and obtain secrets from other teams without their permission?
__________________
cancersuckschicago.com
FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA BBQ TOUR

Red Jambo one off
FE 100
FEC 100
WSM
Homer Simpson 22 " Weber Kettle
Red 18 1/2" Weber Kettle
Black 26 3/4" Weber Kettle
Scottie is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 12:13 PM   #12
Sawdustguy
Quintessential Chatty Farker
 
Sawdustguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-14-05
Location: Vernon, Connecticut
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewmaster View Post
Seriously, what can be gained by cheating. Can you really turn out a better product by cheating? I might want to cheat at home.

I did use a microwave at a contest once to cook my brisket. It was a little tough and it was bad news when I wrapped it in foil. I don't think I'll do it again.

Cheers,

Nate
If you cooked your brisket in a microwave and turned it in, you cheated. If it turned out good and won the brisket catagory, would you in good conscience accept the award?
__________________
Guy (Pitmaster)
BBQ Team: Lawn Guyland Smokers

Stupidity for Dummies

…because sometimes, you just can’t dumb it down enough…
Sawdustguy is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 12:16 PM   #13
nthole
Babbling Farker

 
nthole's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-11-03
Location: St. Louis
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawdustguy View Post
If you cooked your brisket in a microwave and turned it in, you cheated. If it turned out good and won the brisket catagory, would you in good conscience accept the award?
Having seen Nate's setup, I think he's probably kidding. He does bring have an air conditioner though for when it's hot as hell in August and I definitely think that's cheating!
__________________
Neil -- "Easy Bake Master"
NB Bandera [gone to heaven...conveniently located in Long Island, NY]
Rebel 23, WSM A, WSM B, UDS, Easy Bake Oven
Pork Pistols BBQ
MOFO Illuminati

MOINK...It's what's for linner.
nthole is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 12:24 PM   #14
ihbobry
On the road to being a farker
 
Join Date: 08-22-06
Location: New Paltz NY
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottie View Post
Is Shigging cheating? I am seeing more and more teams Shigging. While it's not cheating the KCBS rules, why even try and obtain secrets from other teams without their permission?
Shigging?
__________________
[B]Bernie[/B]
[B]Q-Less[/B]
[I][B]kcbs cbj, wsm, ihb[/B][/I]
ihbobry is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-26-2008, 12:27 PM   #15
Sawdustguy
Quintessential Chatty Farker
 
Sawdustguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-14-05
Location: Vernon, Connecticut
Default

The most integrity I have ever seen in a cooker is our own Poobah. At last years New Highland Ribfest, Jorge gave some sausage to Poobah for the sausage catagory. Poobah had no idea it was pre-smoked but as soon as he discovered it was pre-smoked he disqualified himself. I will always admire Phil for that.
__________________
Guy (Pitmaster)
BBQ Team: Lawn Guyland Smokers

Stupidity for Dummies

…because sometimes, you just can’t dumb it down enough…
Sawdustguy is offline   Reply With Quote


Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Am I cheating? LittleDick'sBBQ Q-talk 20 11-03-2011 02:04 PM
Cheating Today TechnoSwine Q-talk 6 07-26-2009 04:28 PM
Is it CHEATING FatBoyz Q-talk 166 01-04-2008 02:16 PM

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Forum Custom Search: Enter your Search text below. GOOGLE will search ONLY the BBQ Brethren Forum.





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
2003 -2012 © BBQ-Brethren Inc. All rights reserved. All Content and Flaming Pig Logo are registered and protected under U.S and International Copyright and Trademarks. Content Within this Website Is Property of BBQ Brethren Inc. Reproduction or alteration is strictly prohibited.
no new posts