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View Poll Results: Have you ever cheated, knowingly, at a contest and got by with it?
YES 2 1.21%
NO 163 98.79%
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Unread 06-26-2008, 08:28 AM   #1
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Have you ever cheated knowingly at a contest and got by with it?
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Why cheat? These contests are a measure of our ability to produce quality turn-ins versus the other teams. If one were to cheat it isn't a true measurement of your ability. I pity those who attempt to cheat. Why would someone take such a chance to jepordize their teams integrity. If someone needs to cheat to win they are missing the concept of why we participate in these events in the first place.
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Why cheat? These contests are a measure of our ability to produce quality turn-ins versus the other teams. If one were to cheat it isn't a true measurement of your ability. I pity those who attempt to cheat. Why would someone take such a chance to jepordize their teams integrity. If someone needs to cheat to win they are missing the concept of why we participate in these events in the first place.
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I would be very concerned if we see any YES votes.
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I would be very surprised if we saw any yes votes for 2 reasons.
1) The quality of the people here.
2) Most cheaters are also lier's too. The prisons are full of Innocent people. Just ask them (not that I would know anything about this). I learned that from watching Shaw-shank Redemption.
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I cannot even imagine thinking about cheating at a comp.

While I am sure I have inadvertently broken a rule like not having the fire extinguisher out or not having the bleach in the water, I would never cheat at a comp.
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I don't think that you'll yes votes or I should say, I hope we don't. Like Bigdog said, "The quality of people here"

Anyway, there is no need to cheat. Just do the best you can and let the reps take it from there.
The only people that could cheat are the people inputing the data from the score sheets. Think about that one.
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Ok I have to come clean. We did cook a contest without getting our meat inspected one time. It was not intentional and by the time we realized it we had already rubbed the meat. We did bring the meat to the contest raw and untreated. It wasn't what i would call cheating but I suppose it was against the rules.
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I can say I've not competed, so I haven't. I will be doing my first in Sept. and I won't.
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Seriously, what can be gained by cheating. Can you really turn out a better product by cheating? I might want to cheat at home.

I did use a microwave at a contest once to cook my brisket. It was a little tough and it was bad news when I wrapped it in foil. I don't think I'll do it again.

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Ok I have to come clean. We did cook a contest without getting our meat inspected one time. It was not intentional and by the time we realized it we had already rubbed the meat. We did bring the meat to the contest raw and untreated. It wasn't what i would call cheating but I suppose it was against the rules.

That is probably my biggest fear of competing. To start working on my meat before you are inspected... And having a not so sympathetic rep...

Is Shigging cheating? I am seeing more and more teams Shigging. While it's not cheating the KCBS rules, why even try and obtain secrets from other teams without their permission?
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Seriously, what can be gained by cheating. Can you really turn out a better product by cheating? I might want to cheat at home.

I did use a microwave at a contest once to cook my brisket. It was a little tough and it was bad news when I wrapped it in foil. I don't think I'll do it again.

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If you cooked your brisket in a microwave and turned it in, you cheated. If it turned out good and won the brisket catagory, would you in good conscience accept the award?
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If you cooked your brisket in a microwave and turned it in, you cheated. If it turned out good and won the brisket catagory, would you in good conscience accept the award?
Having seen Nate's setup, I think he's probably kidding. He does bring have an air conditioner though for when it's hot as hell in August and I definitely think that's cheating!
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Is Shigging cheating? I am seeing more and more teams Shigging. While it's not cheating the KCBS rules, why even try and obtain secrets from other teams without their permission?
Shigging?
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The most integrity I have ever seen in a cooker is our own Poobah. At last years New Highland Ribfest, Jorge gave some sausage to Poobah for the sausage catagory. Poobah had no idea it was pre-smoked but as soon as he discovered it was pre-smoked he disqualified himself. I will always admire Phil for that.
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