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Unread 05-30-2009, 11:40 PM   #136
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I've talked to that guy, but he doesn't have any unlined open containers. I'll try the place off the 60.

Thanks for the info!!!
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Unread 05-31-2009, 01:41 AM   #137
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I know a really cool guy in norco that has a drum deheader if you get a closed head.
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Unread 05-31-2009, 09:21 AM   #138
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I know a really cool guy in norco that has a drum deheader if you get a closed head.

Ok, I may take you up on that. An unlined closed drum seems a lot easier to find.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 01:23 PM   #139
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I may be stupid but...
The most important thing when it comes to getting a barrel,
is the fit of the lid.
It doesn't much matter what has been in it other than paint, it will all burn out after several good trial burns.

How many old guys do we know that have been cooking out of fuel oil tanks for years?
Put the heat to it and stop all the fretting.

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I would like to get a clarification of the statement. "It doesn't much matter what has been in it other than paint, it will all burn out after several good trial burns." Am I to understand that drums that previously contained paint (or primer) should be avoided? If so, what are the specific reasons ?

My thought here is that, if you burn the inside of the barrel out thoroughly, wouldn't any remaining paint be removed? I am sure that you would probably want to utilize a wire brush on a drill to the barrel as well, to ensure all paint residue was removed.

I have access to both drums previously containing oil and paint. The paint ones come as open-top, and were to be my preferred choice, until I read the above quote. Before I make my decision on which to get, I would like to know what hazards barrels previously containing paint pose for use as a UDS.
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Unread 06-09-2009, 02:13 PM   #140
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Let me simplify cgwaite:

Burning some liners releases toxic pollutants. Avoid breathing these fumes.
Same goes for the dust when you grind off what's left of the liner. If you deceide on using a lined drum, take these precautions and, when your done clean it out with strong detergent & water. Then wait a day or 2. If it uniformly rusts, its clean and good to go.
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PS: Some content residues (such as paint, spray foam, etc.) can be as bad as the liners, so the same advice applies.
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Let me simplify cgwaite:

Burning some liners releases toxic pollutants. Avoid breathing these fumes.
Same goes for the dust when you grind off what's left of the liner. If you deceide on using a lined drum, take these precautions and, when your done clean it out with strong detergent & water. Then wait a day or 2. If it uniformly rusts, its clean and good to go.

I understand that during the "burnout" one should avoid inhaling any of the fumes, especially if the barrel contains a liner. Burning plastics release all sorts of noxious and potentially hazardous toxins.

But my major concern was that drums that previously contained paint would have some sort of residue that would render the barrel unusable as a UDS. I believe that, as long as the inside is burnt out properly, wire-brushed to remove any remaining residue and washed out with detergent and water, as you described, the barrel should be usable.

Thanks for the quick replies. I believe I will soon have pron on another UDS build of two cookers.

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I have a similar question regarding what the barrel previously contained. My brother has barrels at work that contained contact cement. Are these ok if burned and wire-wheeled?

The plus side to these is that they are free. I'm anxious to build my first UDS, and I'm about 75 pages in on the UDS thread.
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ctbeerbq:

I would not be suprised to see benzene in contact cement. Do some research. Chances are good there is a MSDS number listed on the drum. Look it up.
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Soooo.... it'll all burn out? And be cool to watch? And of course, don't breathe the fumes.
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This post is a lot easier to read than the 3400 + replies under Ugly Drum Smoker.Norco's pic's pretty much make it idiot proof for people like me
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My local HF had these on clearance for $5...regularly $24...

Stainless Steel Yacht Cleat!! Would make a killer handle for a UDS..

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Sorry CG, as usual I wasn't very through regarding my comment.
Paint, thinner and most everything else will burn out. Don't worry about what was in the drum
but steer clear of these so called food grade drums that everyone here seems to think are the only way to go.
More work, more toxins and just more BS.
Jump on the first Acetone or oil drum you run across.

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I would like to get a clarification of the statement. "It doesn't much matter what has been in it other than paint, it will all burn out after several good trial burns." Am I to understand that drums that previously contained paint (or primer) should be avoided? If so, what are the specific reasons ?

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This post is a lot easier to read than the 3400 + replies under Ugly Drum Smoker.Norco's pic's pretty much make it idiot proof for people like me
Agree it makes for an easier read but would suggest you still real the original uds thread. Some good information in there and gives you a better appreciation for how it all developed. You may actually learn something new!
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That is a great thread.
From page one, you'll see how these things evolved to what they are today.
It really is a must read if you want to understand how and why they do or, don't work.

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Agree it makes for an easier read but would suggest you still real the original uds thread. Some good information in there and gives you a better appreciation for how it all developed. You may actually learn something new!
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