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is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 03-08-08
Location: Overland Park Kansas
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Here is a recent turn in and I need some feeback. My gut is telling me this we could get DQ'd for making the meat look like art. THe other question I have is, does this look to much like a "Pulled Pork Salad?" Please help me with some feedback. Thanks in advance!
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is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 01-07-08
Location: Senoia Ga
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While I am no expert, it looks like too much green in the bottom left. I never try to have the garnish covering the meet. I aim to sit the meat on top of the garnish and for the garnish not to stick above the rim of the box.
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somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 08-13-03
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Drizzling the sauce in the manner that you have would probably be considered marking.
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is One Chatty Farker
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I don't know if it would be dq'd for sculpting or not, I would lean towards not. However your sauce would be considered marking. You do have a lot of garnish, shoot for a fuller box of meat and garnish as garnish. Did that make sense?
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is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 10-14-07
Location: Arlington, Nebraska
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My two cents, yes it looks like a salad, less lettuce, more meat...and yes, drizzling the sauce looks like marking, as a CBJ I would ask for clarification upon presentation from the table captain, which they would then drag over the rep and we would all be stalled on judging, and that sticks in our minds regardless of whether there is a DQ or not, there is a negative impression in the judges mind (and now almost cold meat of all entries), so not worth the risk for a few TBSPs of sauce.....toss it in it before boxing.. BUT all that aside the pork looks awesome....
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somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 01-04-05
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I would agree with all the comments so far, Jon. I might add that you need to get some more bark in there, bro! That's where the best flavor is!
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Join Date: 09-13-07
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this is from the KCBS Rules book I guess it depends on how you interpit it. I think I would not squirt sauce on it though, seems risky. 10. Sauce is optional. If used, it shall be applied directly to the meat and not be pooled or puddled in the container. No side sauce containers will be permitted in the turn-in container. Chunky sauce will be allowed. Chunks are to be no larger than a fine dice, (approximately 1/8 inch cubed). (Sauce violations shall receive a score of one (1) on Appearance). 13. Meat shall not be sculptured, branded or presented in a criteria by all six judges.)way to make it identifiable. Rosettes of meat slices are not allowed. (Violations of this rule will be scored a one (1) on all
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is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 09-12-05
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I think DQ would be stretching the interpretation of the rule although very possible. My rule of thumb when I judge is value add and in a fancy restaurant if there is a reason the drizzle has a value add it might be but in BBQ BBQ NVA so why do it. If not DQed I would not rate it over a 7 to much lettuces, to little meet rather than bark you have what appears to be dried meat, and it is not centered in the box. Just my 2 cents. No a fan of fru fru
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is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 01-05-06
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yeah, my eyes go mostly to the ton of lettuce... and I do agree that that sauce drizzle could be considered marking. Other than that... I think it looks delicious and I don't think it looks dry at all... sorry Charlie. :>
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is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 03-08-08
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Thanks for all the input. After reading your responses, this is really one of those turn ins that I am telling myself "WTF were you thinking." Next time it will be alot more meat and parsly instead of green leaf, and no "drizzle on my sizzzle" or whatever Snoop Dog says!
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Live and learn!The most important thing is to remember what the comments given were and use them on your next contest.
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is Blowin Smoke!
Join Date: 04-14-07
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probably a marking DQ. Maybe sculpting as it looks a lot like Texas almost. And I'd give it a 5 for all the dang lettuce. Fill the box with meat so it's higher than any garnish. That lettuce needs a lawnmower.
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Join Date: 09-17-07
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Regardless of marking or not the pork looks great, mmm pulled pork...
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Join Date: 09-25-05
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way to much green in the box. I don't think a DQ is in order but I would put some more meat and less green in the box.
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is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 01-17-06
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Just a side note. I was a table captain at a comp where there was a box with sauce drizzeled in much the same manner as in the pic above. 2 of the 6 judges at my table inquired if it should be considered marking so I called the Rep over (one of the Grinstead Bothers) and he said that drizzeling is acceptable as long as it is a random or goemetric pattern but it can't be something like the shape of a number etc. He said that drizzeling is not a DQ in and of itself. Just offering what the Rep said. I agree with all the above coments that there is too much lettuce.
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