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View Poll Results: Should the KCBS ban garnish
Ban it 73 50.69%
Keep it 71 49.31%
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Unread 12-07-2007, 06:50 AM   #1
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If you do not like the garnish (even though it's optional and few have the cajones to submit without myself included) voice your opinion here http://www.tossthelettuce.com/
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Unread 12-07-2007, 07:01 AM   #2
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Sled... Thanks for making me put my name on a petition from 2005 !!

Are you planning to revive this issue and present it at the KCBS annual rules meeting next month ? Is it part of your BOD nominee platform ?
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Unread 12-07-2007, 07:14 AM   #3
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Here is a site in favor http://keepthelettuce.com/
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Can the organizer of a sanctioned KCBS event stipulate a no garnish rule?
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Unread 12-07-2007, 07:51 AM   #6
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Can the organizer of a sanctioned KCBS event stipulate a no garnish rule?

I don't think so...

I wonder how many people who are signed up there feel so strongly about it that they personally don't put garnish in the box...
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I don't think so...

I wonder how many people who are signed up there feel so strongly about it that they personally don't put garnish in the box...
Why would we do that ? As long as it's 'optional' I think your putting yourself at a disadvantage if you don't use it. I don't throw my vote away on third party candidates either.
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Why would we do that ? As long as it's 'optional' I think your putting yourself at a disadvantage if you don't use it. I don't throw my vote away on third party candidates either.

What's the reason you would be against garnish?
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If it's a KCBS sanctioned contest, the organizer can not change the rules on the 4 main categories. Auxiliary categories are at the descretion of the organizer. I personally like the garnish if nothing more but to keep the meat in place. I just hope that the judges look at the appearence of the meat more than the greens. The garnish can distract from the meat though.
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i say keep the lettuce! in our first competition, my Mother got the title "Chief ln Charge of Lettuce"(we're gonna make her a t-shirt this season). it was nice having her being such an important part of our team as she was instrumental in introducing me to Barbeque in the first place when i was a kid (long story that i will post up soon). she also got alot of satisfaction making sure all the boxes looked perfect as they went out and had a great time doing it so it was nice to have something for her to do, so again i say... KEEP THE LETTUCE!

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What's the reason you would be against garnish?
Because I'm sick of driving to 3 different supermarkets to find some decent lettuce and Parsley and some of the comments I've heard from judges about garnish are scary.
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Because I'm sick of driving to 3 different supermarkets to find some decent lettuce and Parsley and some of the comments I've heard from judges about garnish are scary.
Yeah, I can understand that. I certainly have made myself crazy at some contests when I open up the cooler and it looks like dead leaves... and I end up having to send someone out to get stuff 2 hours before turn in.
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I like the garnish...or better put, the garnish doesnt bother me. After doing contests without garnish I really think that it is easier to put together a good looking box with garnish than without.
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Personally, I'm against it because I've heard too many judges say, "I gave them a 6 in appearance because the lettuce was not full enough/covered the meat/had sauce on it/pick any other reason. If the contest is about the meat, why are they judging the garnish?
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I was initially against keeping the garnish, if the contest is about the meat, then just present the meat. But now that I've done a few and learned a bit about doing garnish I think it enhances the presentation to the point that I'd rather have it there. I think there has to be some serious education of the judges to be sure they are not judging the garnish and that it shouldn't have a significant impact on the presentation....even though it does. I'm still learning how to do it well, but find it very satisfying and can't see not doing it. It is an option, if there is downscoring because of it, I see it as a judges issue not a competitors issue. Scott
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