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Old 10-31-2007, 08:07 PM   #1
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I'm thinking of making a UDS this winter for the fun of it (and so I can leave it at my parents house and don't have to haul one of mine there).
How is the best way to cut in/out the access door used to add fuel and water?
Also, how do you seal the door so you don't have a lot of air entering through the door?
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:34 PM   #2
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Mitch,when I built mine I used a cutoff wheel and rolled a door out of 10 or 12 gauge.Then I used rope gasket to seal it.I used Hi Temp RTV silicone to hold the gasket to the door.I think I have an overlap of 3/4" all the way around.Pic isnt the best but its all I have at the moment.I dont use a water pan but I did weld in angle iron rails an inch up off the floor to slide the charcoal basket in and out.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:36 PM   #3
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Norcoredneck help me out when I was making mine. Drop him a line. He might have some info on it
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:44 PM   #4
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Mitch, I have made probably a dozen of these and have never cut a door in any of them. I have cooked everything on my UDS that I have on my offset and have never had to add fuel, nor do I use a water pan.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:57 PM   #5
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Send me a PM with email address and I will send info. Thousands of ways to do the same thing. I personally don't put a door in mine or see a need for one. I happen to know where there is a 39 page e-document with tons of info .
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:04 PM   #6
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Norco,wait till you get old and fat then you will understand the door
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:10 PM   #7
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Mitch, like Smooookin said, you don't need an access door. It is so efficient, you don't need to add fuel...cook anything you want on one load of fuel. Just ask BigMista. You can build this in one day and stoke it up the next for the best Q you ever had. And, you can do this with hand tools without a welder or anything special. It is not a winter project, just a couple of evening or a weekend and you are ready to go. Good luck and keep us posted.
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Norco,wait till you get old and fat then you will understand the door
I have seen some interesting builds with doors. The main reason I don't recommend it for most is because the reason a UDS type cooker works so well is the fact that it is so air tight. Lots of people that ask how to build them will probably do best keeping it simple. In order for a door to seal it has to be rolled to match the drum curve. The typical person including myself doesn't have that ability at home. I would hate to see someone buy a drum and cut a hole they would not be able to seal up. As far as emptying the ash ask thirdeye to post his Hoe scoop. My opinion it is tons better than lifting and dumping. For those who are wondering if you could do it yourself believe me you can. You don't need a welder to make one. Hope people don't think I feel like an expert at this, I learn everyday by seeing others work and share what I have done. Like I state 1000's of ways to do the same thing.
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:37 PM   #9
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By the way if any one near me is building one I do have an extra door.When I was settin up the roller (lots of nice toys at work if you treat the boss right)we had some extra pieces.I dont remember who did the one with out wlding but they did a very neat job of it.Was that on Jims site?
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Coz, trust me, I really don' think you don't need a door. When you fire it up a few times and see what will work for your smoker, you don't need to add more fuel. The door can cause too much air intake unless it fits perfect. A typical UDS is not perfect...that's what makes it a UDS. A door would make it easier to clean out but that's not a big deal anyway. It sounds crazy but I can get 16 hours burn time easy on about 12-16 lbs of briquets/lump, just depends on your UDS. Some can get even longer burn time. Check the UDS threads for a lot of good info and go for what you think will work...then build what you like...and it will be fantastic. Good luck!!!!!
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You can use conduit nuts on nipples. Real cheap, 6-8 in a bag. Or you can use snap in plugs like the original BDS.
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I guess I'll ask this here. I work in a high school and today we got new desks. The custodians took the old desks and removed the wooden top/writing area (think of a classic, one piece high school desk) from the rest of the desk. I think that they were going to recycle the wood somehow. The wood was held on by these metal bracket things. I grabbed 8 of them, thinking that they would be easy to fasten to a barrel (They already have holes for screws) and they would be perfect to rest a cooking grate on.

I guess my question is could these be in any way dangerous to cook on or does this sound like a bad idea for any reason. I could post photos if needed.

It's insane how excited I was when I saw these metal strips. Pretty much made my day.
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I guess I'll ask this here. I work in a high school and today we got new desks. The custodians took the old desks and removed the wooden top/writing area (think of a classic, one piece high school desk) from the rest of the desk. I think that they were going to recycle the wood somehow. The wood was held on by these metal bracket things. I grabbed 8 of them, thinking that they would be easy to fasten to a barrel (They already have holes for screws) and they would be perfect to rest a cooking grate on.

I guess my question is could these be in any way dangerous to cook on or does this sound like a bad idea for any reason. I could post photos if needed.

It's insane how excited I was when I saw these metal strips. Pretty much made my day.
How about side tables? Wood and brackets.
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are they steel? The reason I ask is for some reason magnesium comes to mind. I would assume once the paint is burnt off it would be fine.
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No paint on them at all. Not sure if they are steel. They are soft enough to bend but there is no question that they would hold a cooking grate with meat easily.
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