Horizontal vs Vertical

Rub-A-Dub · 08-30-2007, 10:29 PM

I know I'm going to get ponded on for this but which one is better, Vertical or Horizonal? I'm at a point in my build that I could go eather way. Just asking the more experenced brethren, This will be used at comp's and catering. Thanks for the help in advance.

BBQchef33 · 08-30-2007, 10:32 PM

See post #19 in the roadmap.. It will get u started...

All i would offer to add to that is..

heat RISES.. it doesnt travel sideways. :)

Brian in So Cal · 08-30-2007, 10:35 PM

Never worry about asking a question. These guys are here to help.

Yakfishingfool · 08-30-2007, 10:39 PM

They really are two different beasts. The vertical will probably give you a more homogynous heating environ. Meaning there may be a 20-40 temp range form the top to bottom shelves. A horizontal could have as much as 200 degree temperature variations in some cases. Could be 375 over the edge of the fire box and the bottom opposite corner could be 150 to 200. Now this offers a lot of zones to cook in, but a smaller sweet spot. Your really need one of each. IMHO :)

BBQ Grail · 08-30-2007, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBQchef33

All i would offer to add to that is..
heat RISES.. it doesnt travel sideways. :)

Profound...

That's why you are the leader of this little club.

FatDaddy · 08-31-2007, 01:35 AM

I have one of each!! I recommend getting both!

Yakfishingfool · 08-31-2007, 05:57 AM

Yup!!! a medium spicewine and a Klose BYC with an extended horizontal and thicker burn box

jt · 08-31-2007, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yakfishingfool

Yup!!! a medium spicewine and a Klose BYC with an extended horizontal and thicker burn box

Hey you! Outta my dream!

Seems to me the BYC would be the best of both worlds. I think Parrothead's & Sami's have the extended length that give you more useable space in the horizontal.

willkat98 · 08-31-2007, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rub-A-Dub

I know I'm going to get ponded on for this .

You will not get ponded here.

You will stay suitably dry, thats for sure.

And verticals are better

Sawdustguy · 08-31-2007, 07:51 AM

Unless you enjoy staying up all night at a contest go for a vertical. Horizontals are usually stick burners. They must be tended all night adding a stick or two of wood an hour to hold temperature. We have a Spicewine Large Cooker and have learned how to keep that baby purring at exactly 225* for better than 24 hours with a charcoal basket and a Guru. At $2500 for a Spicewine Large Cooker you will be hard pressed to find a better made cooker anywhere. It has a big capacity too!

Ron_L · 08-31-2007, 08:04 AM

I was going to say that I prefer horizontal. Vertical puts too much strain on my back, bu this is Q-Talk and that kind of thing will get me moderated

As i type this I realized that all of my cookers are really vertical. The WSMs are obviously vertical and the Good One, even though it has a side firebox the airflow really is vertical. I think both designs can produce good results. you just have to learn to finer points of your ocoker are use it to your advantage.

voodoobbqIL · 08-31-2007, 08:47 AM

greetings from Vienna Austria,

needed some BBQ talk so I decided to log on...
indeed heat does not travel side ways but with proper control you can make a horizontal cook very efficiently. I had a vertical that we built in our blacksmith shop, and then I added it to a horizontal that we built, so it looks like a big BYC, and after about 3 good long cooks and learning how to control airflow with it I can go a good 4 hours in the box without messing with it. So I think they both have finer points, but I like the horizontal because it less messy when you have to move stuff around and you do not risk losing the meat you have just spend many hours to prepare.

big brother smoke · 08-31-2007, 09:14 AM

Well, my firebox is underneath my horizontal cooking chamber, so my cooker is kind of bifocated

I believe food cooks quicker in the vertical (at least in my cooker). Subsequently, I am getting great chix results!

butts a fire · 08-31-2007, 12:03 PM

I have to say I prefer vertical to horizontal having cooked on both. They both can cook great Q you just have to learn how to use either one so I don't think you can go wrong either way you just have to figure out what your needs are and what will fufill them the best.

Arlin_MacRae · 08-31-2007, 12:55 PM

I've owned one of each and I think the Poobah put it best. Heat rises. Go vertical.

08-30-2007, 10:32 PM	#2
BBQchef33 Grand Poobah and Site Admin Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Long Island, NY Downloads: 10 Uploads: 4	See post #19 in the roadmap.. It will get u started... All i would offer to add to that is.. heat RISES.. it doesnt travel sideways. :) __________________ Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Klose built MoAB (Mother of All Banderas) passed on to Big Dog, 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 1 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 1 Pit Barrel Cooker, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM

08-30-2007, 10:35 PM	#3
Brian in So Cal Babbling Farker Join Date: 02-12-07 Location: canyon Country, Ca, 91387 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Never worry about asking a question. These guys are here to help. __________________ www.rocstock.org Blast Off BBQ, Brian K As a matter of fact I am a rocket scientist! Just call me Dad.

08-30-2007, 10:39 PM	#4
Yakfishingfool Babbling Farker Join Date: 10-01-05 Location: Shokan, New York Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	They really are two different beasts. The vertical will probably give you a more homogynous heating environ. Meaning there may be a 20-40 temp range form the top to bottom shelves. A horizontal could have as much as 200 degree temperature variations in some cases. Could be 375 over the edge of the fire box and the bottom opposite corner could be 150 to 200. Now this offers a lot of zones to cook in, but a smaller sweet spot. Your really need one of each. IMHO :) __________________ Oh It'z BBQ! 6 Kayaks(tarpon 160i, 2 tarpon 120's, a hobie outback, hobie tandem, and a Kaskazi Dorado) 1 Weber Gold Series Grill 1 Spicewine Large on a trailer 1 WSM 1 Smokey Joe Platinum 1 XL Big Green Egg KCBS Certified Judge #9079

08-31-2007, 01:35 AM	#6
FatDaddy is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 04-04-06 Location: Wichita Falls, Tx Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have one of each!! I recommend getting both! __________________ HALF DIAMOND RANCH BBQ Home made 5' reverse flow smoker Lg BGE WSM 18.5 WSM 22.5 Weber Kettle 22 1/2" silver series Weber Copper Smokey Joe Gold 14.5" GPS trackable RED super fast thermopen http://www.facebook.com/jtempleton2

08-31-2007, 05:57 AM	#7
Yakfishingfool Babbling Farker Join Date: 10-01-05 Location: Shokan, New York Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yup!!! a medium spicewine and a Klose BYC with an extended horizontal and thicker burn box __________________ Oh It'z BBQ! 6 Kayaks(tarpon 160i, 2 tarpon 120's, a hobie outback, hobie tandem, and a Kaskazi Dorado) 1 Weber Gold Series Grill 1 Spicewine Large on a trailer 1 WSM 1 Smokey Joe Platinum 1 XL Big Green Egg KCBS Certified Judge #9079

08-30-2007, 10:29 PM	#1
Rub-A-Dub Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 08-18-07 Location: seeley, ca Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Horizontal vs Vertical I know I'm going to get ponded on for this but which one is better, Vertical or Horizonal? I'm at a point in my build that I could go eather way. Just asking the more experenced brethren, This will be used at comp's and catering. Thanks for the help in advance. __________________ :icon_cool 1 Smoke-N-Pit offset 1 UDS!! 1 Turkey Fryer 1 Homebuilt reverse flow 1 18" Weber

08-31-2007, 07:51 AM	#10
Sawdustguy Babbling Farker Join Date: 09-14-05 Location: Manorville, Long Island Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Unless you enjoy staying up all night at a contest go for a vertical. Horizontals are usually stick burners. They must be tended all night adding a stick or two of wood an hour to hold temperature. We have a Spicewine Large Cooker and have learned how to keep that baby purring at exactly 225* for better than 24 hours with a charcoal basket and a Guru. At $2500 for a Spicewine Large Cooker you will be hard pressed to find a better made cooker anywhere. It has a big capacity too! __________________ Guy (Brewmaster and Pitmaster) BBQ Team: *Two Fat Polocks BBQ Team* Brewery: Black Dog Brewery BBQ Equipment: "Sam I Am": XL Big Green Egg "Barbra Q": Lang 84 Deluxe "R2 and D2": Twin 22" Weber Smokey Mountains Brewery: Custom Made Automated Souped Up Sabco

08-31-2007, 08:04 AM	#11
Ron_L Moderator Join Date: 12-09-04 Location: Chicago 'Burbs Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I was going to say that I prefer horizontal. Vertical puts too much strain on my back, bu this is Q-Talk and that kind of thing will get me moderated As i type this I realized that all of my cookers are really vertical. The WSMs are obviously vertical and the Good One, even though it has a side firebox the airflow really is vertical. I think both designs can produce good results. you just have to learn to finer points of your ocoker are use it to your advantage. __________________ "Ron Rico, Boss. You can call me Captain Ron..." Save The Fatty! FEC-100/BWS Party/Memphis Pro SS/PBC/LBGE X 2/SBGE/Mini BGE/Nomad Pellet-matic/Good-One Model 42/WSM X 2/Cookshack Smokette 008/Weber Performer/Weber Gasser/Weber Kettle X 2/Weber Smokey Joe/WGA/UDS/Coffee Roasting Gasser and a pickle Remembering a friend

08-31-2007, 08:47 AM	#12
voodoobbqIL Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 10-03-05 Location: Louisville, KY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	greetings from Vienna Austria, needed some BBQ talk so I decided to log on... indeed heat does not travel side ways but with proper control you can make a horizontal cook very efficiently. I had a vertical that we built in our blacksmith shop, and then I added it to a horizontal that we built, so it looks like a big BYC, and after about 3 good long cooks and learning how to control airflow with it I can go a good 4 hours in the box without messing with it. So I think they both have finer points, but I like the horizontal because it less messy when you have to move stuff around and you do not risk losing the meat you have just spend many hours to prepare. __________________ Kevin a.k.a. Smokcrates, BBQ P[FONT=Arial]hilosopher[/FONT] Partners in Swine Comp. BBQ Team KCBS CBJ Ole' Hickory CTO / large BGE 2 x Weber 22.5 One Touch Silver (red , black) Weber Smokey Joe Char-Broil Gas Passer

08-31-2007, 09:14 AM	#13
big brother smoke somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 05-03-06 Location: Ventura, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, my firebox is underneath my horizontal cooking chamber, so my cooker is kind of bifocated I believe food cooks quicker in the vertical (at least in my cooker). Subsequently, I am getting great chix results! __________________ Peace and Smoke, BBS https://www.bigpoppasmokers.com/stor...nufacturer=314 My Weapons: Custom rig - Kandi, UDS; Bubba Keg; 22.5 WSM x 2; 18.5 WSM; BWS extended party; BWS Gator and an Onyx Oven; 29' ft Coachmen Leprechaun (Lola); Avatar by Grillman. Dan Chambers get well soon, so we can tell you to "Shut up Chambers"

08-31-2007, 12:03 PM	#14
butts a fire is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 06-13-07 Location: Parkville, Mo Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have to say I prefer vertical to horizontal having cooked on both. They both can cook great Q you just have to learn how to use either one so I don't think you can go wrong either way you just have to figure out what your needs are and what will fufill them the best. __________________ Chad B Butts A Fire BBQ Team NB Bandera Webber Kettle Backwoods Party Pro Q Excel 20

08-31-2007, 12:55 PM	#15
Arlin_MacRae Moderator Join Date: 04-14-04 Location: Choctaw, OK Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I've owned one of each and I think the Poobah put it best. Heat rises. Go vertical. __________________ Arlin MacRae NB El Dorado Offset, Primo Oval Junior, Traeger Model 075 Pellet Pooper, Big Chief, Kingfisher Kooker 14" gas/wood combo, PBC Brethren Edition Home Brewer, Murderer of Squirrels, Armadillo Inspector Flaming Pig Head Mod Black (Stealth) Thermapen Driver - you saw NOTHING Certified KCBS BBQ Judge Missin' KC...

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