No offense to ye olde K guys, but...

vr6Cop · 05-06-2007, 10:50 AM

I didn't want to hijack Bill's thread about the smoked burgers and last bag of Old Kingsford, so I'll ask here.

Having suffered through miserable times not knowing how to properly grill with briquettes and going through a gasser phase, I went with what is IMO the easiest charcoal grill around a few years ago. Since I bought my Egg back in Ought Four, I've only used natural lump. Less mess, easy burn, easy light.

Why do a lot of you use briquets instead of lump? I'm not being fecitious, I'm asking an honest question.

Last year I bought a couple of bags of K to use in a new Weber Kettle that I bought for our gun range, and it just didn't work out for me. Luckily a bonafide caterer stepped in and took over, so we had good burgers & dogs.

It just seems that things are easier and cleaner with lump.

Thanks in advance for the replies.

Ron_L · 05-06-2007, 10:51 AM

For me the answer is simple... the only lump I can find around here is Cowboy, which sucks. If I could find a good quality lump I'd buy it everytime.

Kevin · 05-06-2007, 10:57 AM

Same as Ron. I can not get anything other than briquettes locally.

vr6Cop · 05-06-2007, 11:20 AM

I just bought a 10lb bag of Kingsford natural lump at Target yesterday. It was the first time I'd seen it. Wally World usually carries Royal Oak lump in my area. I usually go with it, since I can buy three 10-lb bags of RO for every 1 bag of BGE lump (made by RO). Maybe WalMart in youse guys areas carries it, or could get it if you asked?

Ron_L · 05-06-2007, 11:34 AM

Our local Wal*Mart had it once, but when I went back for more they didn't even have a spot on the shelf for it. I talked to the Garden Center guy and he said that they won't be carrying it because no one bought it. We said that he would order it if I would take the whole pallet. I don't have anyplace to put a whole pallet!

we'll smoke u · 05-06-2007, 12:08 PM

I'm just like Ron can't find any good stuff around here. But I have had good luck with kingsford I get about a 20hr burn with about 15lbs and some sticks of wood. That is with my big smoker it has 23 foot of cooking space.

Mooner · 05-06-2007, 12:31 PM

I use lump about 90% of the time but I am able to get awesome lump at a store here in KC. The chunks are huge and burn a long time. I have heard people say that the disadvantage to using lump is that it's obviously a natural product and due to that sometimes may burn inconsistently or hotter than briquets causing temp spikes or whatever. I also know people who say that unlit briquets may cause a bitter or off taste in meat due to chemical binders in the coals. Personally I have not had an off taste in my meat from Kinsford and I will say that lump is much more expensive in my opinion but to each his own. I use both.

motor mouth · 05-06-2007, 01:33 PM

Local lump supply (that I know of) is only Cowboy

DaChief · 05-06-2007, 03:08 PM

I use Kingsford and it is the only thing I have used in my WSM. Cowboy is also the only other thing here at Lowes and i refuse based on other comments. I happen to like it but maybe because it is the only thing I have ever used!

nthole · 05-06-2007, 04:19 PM

Cowboys about the only thing I can easily find in St. Louis. And I can get 5 times as much K at Sams for about double the price.

I once got a completely charred coke can out of a Cowboy bag when I was trying it. And a half burned piece of pre-finished flooring. That worried me.

Kevin · 05-06-2007, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nthole

Cowboys about the only thing I can easily find in St. Louis. And I can get 5 times as much K at Sams for about double the price.

I once got a completely charred coke can out of a Cowboy bag when I was trying it. And a half burned piece of pre-finished flooring. That worried me.

And plywood scraps. I tried the Cowboy, didn't like it. I burn mostly sticks anyway. Just my preference.

The_Kapn · 05-06-2007, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nthole

Cowboys about the only thing I can easily find in St. Louis. And I can get 5 times as much K at Sams for about double the price.

I once got a completely charred coke can out of a Cowboy bag when I was trying it. And a half burned piece of pre-finished flooring. That worried me.

YUP--I bought a 20# bag of Cowboy when I first got to smokin' several years ago.
Seemed like the thing to do.
Pure crap.

I gave the remaining 5 lbs or so to the buyer of my Dera to start fires with.
All it is good for.

All the supply problems for quality charcoal around here and the labor and logistical challenges with sticks/chunks led to my FEC and Gas Grill

TIM

michiana mark · 05-06-2007, 04:56 PM

Ron L have you tried Gordon Food Service. I believe they have a store in Aurora. I buy RO lump and Kingsford there all the time. Open to the public.. Gordonfoodservice.com and use the store locator feature

CajunSmoker · 05-06-2007, 05:08 PM

We have a bunch of different types of lump available here and I have tried several of them but IMO it burns too hot and too fast. I always go back to my Royal Oak briquettes. I can count on a consistant fire every time unless I screw it up myself.

Bossmanbbq · 05-06-2007, 05:24 PM

I have found some good stuff here locally by going to a BBQ supply shop The Outdoor Cooker. May sound weird but a lot of the local fireplace and and Hottub supply outlets are now carrying BBQ and Smokers, some of them are stocking Lump as well, might give it a shot or make some calls and ask. Just an idea.

05-06-2007, 10:50 AM	#1
vr6Cop is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 12-18-06 Location: Nashville, TN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No offense to ye olde K guys, but... I didn't want to hijack Bill's thread about the smoked burgers and last bag of Old Kingsford, so I'll ask here. Having suffered through miserable times not knowing how to properly grill with briquettes and going through a gasser phase, I went with what is IMO the easiest charcoal grill around a few years ago. Since I bought my Egg back in Ought Four, I've only used natural lump. Less mess, easy burn, easy light. Why do a lot of you use briquets instead of lump? I'm not being fecitious, I'm asking an honest question. Last year I bought a couple of bags of K to use in a new Weber Kettle that I bought for our gun range, and it just didn't work out for me. Luckily a bonafide caterer stepped in and took over, so we had good burgers & dogs. It just seems that things are easier and cleaner with lump. Thanks in advance for the replies. __________________ Cheers, Adrian Large Big Green Egg, BBQ Guru Pit Competitor for overnights, Weber One Touch Silver Jere Baxter-Edgefield Lodge 254 F&AM

05-06-2007, 10:51 AM	#2
Ron_L Moderator Join Date: 12-09-04 Location: Chicago 'Burbs Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	For me the answer is simple... the only lump I can find around here is Cowboy, which sucks. If I could find a good quality lump I'd buy it everytime. __________________ "Ron Rico, Boss. You can call me Captain Ron..." Save The Fatty! FEC-100/BWS Party/Memphis Pro SS/PBC/LBGE X 2/SBGE/Mini BGE/Nomad Pellet-matic/Good-One Model 42/WSM X 2/Cookshack Smokette 008/Weber Performer/Weber Gasser/Weber Kettle X 2/Weber Smokey Joe/WGA/UDS/Coffee Roasting Gasser and a pickle Remembering a friend

05-06-2007, 10:57 AM	#3
Kevin Moderator Join Date: 02-06-05 Location: Southern Minnesota Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Same as Ron. I can not get anything other than briquettes locally. __________________ Kevin

05-06-2007, 11:20 AM	#4
vr6Cop is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 12-18-06 Location: Nashville, TN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I just bought a 10lb bag of Kingsford natural lump at Target yesterday. It was the first time I'd seen it. Wally World usually carries Royal Oak lump in my area. I usually go with it, since I can buy three 10-lb bags of RO for every 1 bag of BGE lump (made by RO). Maybe WalMart in youse guys areas carries it, or could get it if you asked? __________________ Cheers, Adrian Large Big Green Egg, BBQ Guru Pit Competitor for overnights, Weber One Touch Silver Jere Baxter-Edgefield Lodge 254 F&AM

05-06-2007, 11:34 AM	#5
Ron_L Moderator Join Date: 12-09-04 Location: Chicago 'Burbs Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Our local Wal*Mart had it once, but when I went back for more they didn't even have a spot on the shelf for it. I talked to the Garden Center guy and he said that they won't be carrying it because no one bought it. We said that he would order it if I would take the whole pallet. I don't have anyplace to put a whole pallet! __________________ "Ron Rico, Boss. You can call me Captain Ron..." Save The Fatty! FEC-100/BWS Party/Memphis Pro SS/PBC/LBGE X 2/SBGE/Mini BGE/Nomad Pellet-matic/Good-One Model 42/WSM X 2/Cookshack Smokette 008/Weber Performer/Weber Gasser/Weber Kettle X 2/Weber Smokey Joe/WGA/UDS/Coffee Roasting Gasser and a pickle Remembering a friend

05-06-2007, 12:08 PM	#6
we'll smoke u is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 07-21-06 Location: Valley, Nebraska Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm just like Ron can't find any good stuff around here. But I have had good luck with kingsford I get about a 20hr burn with about 15lbs and some sticks of wood. That is with my big smoker it has 23 foot of cooking space. __________________ Scott Burke www.wellsmokeubbq.com www.operationbbqmw.org KCBS MEMBER #24303 COUNTRY SMOKER 570 PELLET FEEDER ONE SMALL HOME MADE VERTICAL WEBER KETTLE GOLD 221/2 WEBER BABYQ

05-06-2007, 12:31 PM	#7
Mooner is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-18-06 Location: Southeast Missouri Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I use lump about 90% of the time but I am able to get awesome lump at a store here in KC. The chunks are huge and burn a long time. I have heard people say that the disadvantage to using lump is that it's obviously a natural product and due to that sometimes may burn inconsistently or hotter than briquets causing temp spikes or whatever. I also know people who say that unlit briquets may cause a bitter or off taste in meat due to chemical binders in the coals. Personally I have not had an off taste in my meat from Kinsford and I will say that lump is much more expensive in my opinion but to each his own. I use both. __________________ *Jordan* *MOFO Chapter* Blue Moon Porkers FEC100 / GMG Jim Bowie (Dealer)/ Sams Club Gasser / King Cooker Hot Tub

05-06-2007, 01:33 PM	#8
motor mouth Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 04-13-07 Location: Portland, OR Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Local lump supply (that I know of) is only Cowboy __________________ Brinkmann Smoke 'N Pit Deluxe - ready to get rid of this Lynx gasser Webber Kettle - complete with flavor dent in the lid, under the handle. This one needs to go. Webber Perfomer Bradley 4 rack Puck Pusher

05-06-2007, 03:08 PM	#9
DaChief Babbling Farker Join Date: 01-28-07 Location: Melbourne, FL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I use Kingsford and it is the only thing I have used in my WSM. Cowboy is also the only other thing here at Lowes and i refuse based on other comments. I happen to like it but maybe because it is the only thing I have ever used!

05-06-2007, 04:19 PM	#10
nthole Babbling Farker Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: St. Louis Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Cowboys about the only thing I can easily find in St. Louis. And I can get 5 times as much K at Sams for about double the price. I once got a completely charred coke can out of a Cowboy bag when I was trying it. And a half burned piece of pre-finished flooring. That worried me. __________________ Neil -- "Easy Bake Master" NB Bandera [gone to heaven...conveniently located in Long Island, NY] WSM A, WSM B, UDS, Easy Bake Oven Pork Pistols BBQ MOFO Illuminati MOINK...It's what's for linner.

05-06-2007, 04:56 PM	#13
michiana mark is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 04-28-07 Location: Elkhart IN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ron L have you tried Gordon Food Service. I believe they have a store in Aurora. I buy RO lump and Kingsford there all the time. Open to the public.. Gordonfoodservice.com and use the store locator feature

05-06-2007, 05:08 PM	#14
CajunSmoker is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 02-06-07 Location: Rolling down the river between St Louis and New Orleans Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We have a bunch of different types of lump available here and I have tried several of them but IMO it burns too hot and too fast. I always go back to my Royal Oak briquettes. I can count on a consistant fire every time unless I screw it up myself. __________________ Rodger How y'all are? I'm glad you got to see me I guarontee Justin Wilson 4/24/1914 - 09/05/2001 CAJUN QUE KREWE Proud ARKLAFO KCBS member & CBJ#24398 Twin CoonAss Ugly Drum Smokers Brinkman Smoke King Deluxe Brinkman Gourmet ECB with super chicken mods Weber OTS kettle

05-06-2007, 05:24 PM	#15
Bossmanbbq is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 12-03-05 Location: Colorado Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have found some good stuff here locally by going to a BBQ supply shop The Outdoor Cooker. May sound weird but a lot of the local fireplace and and Hottub supply outlets are now carrying BBQ and Smokers, some of them are stocking Lump as well, might give it a shot or make some calls and ask. Just an idea. __________________ Bossman www.bossmanbbq.com Peoria Custom Pit 24x72Treager Texas Style Smoker Whole Hog Country Smoker* " You can put all of the sauce on it you want, but you still have to master the art of cooking barbecue" - Mike Mills-

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