Pit comparison

tumpedover · 03-04-2007, 09:08 AM

Ok, I know this has been done till we're blue in the face...I searched the roadmap and couldn't find just what I was looking for so I'll ask y'all here!

I am in the market (within the next 3-4 mo's.) to buy a new offset. I'm pretty sure I want another offset (it's just what I like). I have owned or still do own, A lyfe Tyme trailer 24" w/84" main chamber w/ upright, the Gator -Texas Legend, a couple home made tank type pits, a Pitts and Spitts,as well as several horizontal drums,and a couple WSM's. With that said, I pretty much know what type of smoker I want ,I would just like some input on other stuff besides those I've owned.
I definatley want at least a 24" dia. not really bigger than 30". I definatley want an upright and I would at least like the option of having at least the firebox and the upright insulated .I definatley want tuning plates and a baffle as well. I want it to be heavy duty.Not 1/2" or noithin' ,but you know, stout!! I want to be able to cook at least 25 or more butts at a time although I may not, but 25 is bare minimum. I want something well built (obviously) and I want it for free

....seriously I don't have an unlimited budget like I did when I bought the T.L.

(yeah right) ....I would like to spend $4K or so obviously less is more

....THat probably rules out the Klose and probably the Gator as well (sucks, b'cause I'm definatley a Gator guy!) unless it's used wich I'm open to.
I'm not getting rid of my Lyfe Tyme, but I'm temporarily moving back to TEXAS!!!

, and I need another pit to travel with me,as I will leave my Lyfe Tyme with the Ministry I work with here in Atlanta.
Any and all help woul,d be appreciated. If you need more info on what I want ask away!!!

Sawdustguy · 03-04-2007, 09:28 AM

I don't think there is a pit like you described made anywhere in the world in your price bracket ($4000). What your describing is pretty standard until you get to the insulated upright and firebox. Those two items with double the price of the cooker.

tumpedover · 03-04-2007, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sawdustguy

I don't think there is a pit like you described made anywhere in the world in your price bracket ($4000). What your describing is pretty standard until you get to the insulated upright and firebox. Those two items with double the price of the cooker.

I realize that the $4k is base price,probably in the $3.5K-$4K range,but I definatley disagree that insulating would double the price. I have done some researchand,everything I've seen so far indicates that insulating the firebox on the pit will run around $6-$700 and about the same or maybe close to $800 fopr the upright. that gets me up to around the $5.2-$5.5K range. I guess I should have clarified that point. Although the $4k range is better

.I just thought maybe there would be some pits out there I haven't seen ,and you guys might know about them

The_Kapn · 03-04-2007, 10:21 AM

John,
Have you looked at Lang?
http://www.pigroast.com/

Very serviceable pits.

Lots and lots of builders out there now.

TIM

tumpedover · 03-04-2007, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Kapn

John,
Have you looked at Lang?
http://www.pigroast.com/

Very serviceable pits.

Lots and lots of builders out there now.

TIM

Actually Kapn, I'm leaning really hard toward the 84.....I've seen lots around and talked to lots of people who use 'em.I 've never had the pleasure myself though. Any pros-n- Cons for me??

The_Kapn · 03-04-2007, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tumpedover

Actually Kapn, I'm leaning really hard toward the 84.....I've seen lots around and talked to lots of people who use 'em.I 've never had the pleasure myself though. Any pros-n- Cons for me??

Several of the Brothers own the 84 and I am sure they will chime in.
Kevin (HomeBBQ) competed with one for several years and did "Really well" with an 84.

Real popular down in this neck of the woods.
They are a "great value" cooker that gets the job done.

Good luck on your search.

TIM

iceboxbbq · 03-04-2007, 03:04 PM

how about one of these http://horizonbbqsmokers.com/seethem.html doesn't have all you want but a friend has one and really likes it made very well I think any how

Plowboy · 03-04-2007, 03:15 PM

MokanMeathead (Wayne) has a Lang 60 which he's talked about selling for a Spicewine at some point. Smaller than what you are looking for it sounds, but he can give you some insight into Lang.

thunderbelly · 03-04-2007, 03:19 PM

I have the 24" double and that thing holds the temps even when I am n central Ontario.

nmayeux · 03-04-2007, 03:33 PM

John,
You know what I think! If you want to cook on the Lang, you just have to let me know. I realize that mine is a 60, but it will give you an idea. $4K will buy a heck of a lot of smoker from Ben Lang.

tumpedover · 03-04-2007, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmayeux

John,
You know what I think! If you want to cook on the Lang, you just have to let me know. I realize that mine is a 60, but it will give you an idea. $4K will buy a heck of a lot of smoker from Ben Lang.

Let me know when and where Noah...I'd love a chance to cook on your pit!!
I'll bring the Shiner Bock

nmayeux · 03-04-2007, 04:13 PM

I'll let you know, but please understand that mine is better than new! It lives in the garage, while the cars live outside!

smokinbadger · 03-04-2007, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tumpedover

I realize that the $4k is base price,probably in the $3.5K-$4K range,but I definatley disagree that insulating would double the price. I have done some researchand,everything I've seen so far indicates that insulating the firebox on the pit will run around $6-$700 and about the same or maybe close to $800 fopr the upright. that gets me up to around the $5.2-$5.5K range. I guess I should have clarified that point. Although the $4k range is better

.I just thought maybe there would be some pits out there I haven't seen ,and you guys might know about them

I cooked on Superbowl Sunday on my Klose MasterChef, and did find that I needed an insulated smoke chamber (in this case the horizontal) to hold 225, as it was about -5F with 30 mph winds. The hot water heater blanket I bought from Lowes for $15 definately didn't double the cost of the smoker!

Dave Klose told me that the insulated firebox was a waste of money when I was spec'ing out the MC, FYI.

tjus77 · 03-04-2007, 04:57 PM

woo hoo, glad you are coming back to God's country. whereabouts exactly?

tj

nmayeux · 03-04-2007, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjus77

woo hoo, glad you are coming back to God's country. whereabouts exactly?

tj

TJ,
He's going to Texas, not South Georgia!

03-04-2007, 09:08 AM	#1
tumpedover is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 10-21-06 Location: Odessa WEST TEXAS Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Pit comparison Ok, I know this has been done till we're blue in the face...I searched the roadmap and couldn't find just what I was looking for so I'll ask y'all here! I am in the market (within the next 3-4 mo's.) to buy a new offset. I'm pretty sure I want another offset (it's just what I like). I have owned or still do own, A lyfe Tyme trailer 24" w/84" main chamber w/ upright, the Gator -Texas Legend, a couple home made tank type pits, a Pitts and Spitts,as well as several horizontal drums,and a couple WSM's. With that said, I pretty much know what type of smoker I want ,I would just like some input on other stuff besides those I've owned. I definatley want at least a 24" dia. not really bigger than 30". I definatley want an upright and I would at least like the option of having at least the firebox and the upright insulated .I definatley want tuning plates and a baffle as well. I want it to be heavy duty.Not 1/2" or noithin' ,but you know, stout!! I want to be able to cook at least 25 or more butts at a time although I may not, but 25 is bare minimum. I want something well built (obviously) and I want it for free....seriously I don't have an unlimited budget like I did when I bought the T.L. (yeah right) ....I would like to spend $4K or so obviously less is more....THat probably rules out the Klose and probably the Gator as well (sucks, b'cause I'm definatley a Gator guy!) unless it's used wich I'm open to. I'm not getting rid of my Lyfe Tyme, but I'm temporarily moving back to TEXAS!!!, and I need another pit to travel with me,as I will leave my Lyfe Tyme with the Ministry I work with here in Atlanta. Any and all help woul,d be appreciated. If you need more info on what I want ask away!!! __________________ [B]John,[/B] [B][B]Texas Legend -Ok, At least I used to own it !![/B][/B] [B][B]SmokeMaster [/B] [/B][B]Lyfe Tyme off set trailer[/B] [B]55 gal drum/Texas Hibachi [/B] [B]55 gal drum/ offset smoker[/B] [B][I][U]Jesus Loves Barbecue[/U][/I][/B]

03-04-2007, 09:28 AM	#2
Sawdustguy Babbling Farker Join Date: 09-14-05 Location: Manorville, Long Island Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't think there is a pit like you described made anywhere in the world in your price bracket ($4000). What your describing is pretty standard until you get to the insulated upright and firebox. Those two items with double the price of the cooker. __________________ Guy (Brewmaster and Pitmaster) BBQ Team: *Two Fat Polocks BBQ Team* Brewery: Black Dog Brewery BBQ Equipment: "Sam I Am": XL Big Green Egg "Barbra Q": Lang 84 Deluxe "R2 and D2": Twin 22" Weber Smokey Mountains Brewery: Custom Made Automated Souped Up Sabco

03-04-2007, 10:21 AM	#4
The_Kapn Moderator Emeritus Join Date: 04-08-04 Location: Marianna, FL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	John, Have you looked at Lang? http://www.pigroast.com/ Very serviceable pits. Lots and lots of builders out there now. TIM __________________ "Flirtin' with Disaster" BBQ Team (RETIRED) FBA and KCBS Cook and Judge. Former owner of a WSM, a Smokey Joe, a Charbroil Commercial gasser (junk), and the legendary "StudeDera". Now cooking with a FEC100, a Traeger Lil' Tex, and a Fast Eddy PG500 Proud Pellet guy cooking on real wood.

03-04-2007, 03:04 PM	#7
iceboxbbq On the road to being a farker Join Date: 10-28-06 Location: Sarasota,FL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	how about one of these http://horizonbbqsmokers.com/seethem.html doesn't have all you want but a friend has one and really likes it made very well I think any how __________________ BBQ & Cold Beer life is good Large BGE Cajun Grill w/firebox (sold) Outlaw char-grill w/sfb ( for sale)

03-04-2007, 03:15 PM	#8
Plowboy somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 10-09-06 Location: Blue Springs, MO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	MokanMeathead (Wayne) has a Lang 60 which he's talked about selling for a Spicewine at some point. Smaller than what you are looking for it sounds, but he can give you some insight into Lang. __________________ Pork Pullin Plowboys (and Smoke on Wheels) Save a hog, ride a plowboy! www.plowboysbbq.com Todd Johns (me); Blue Springs, MO Randy Hinck (PigBoy); Concordia, MO Andy Groneman (Hodedo); KC, KS (Cameo Appearances) FEC-500SS; FEC-100 (Right handed); FEC-100 (Left handed); Country Smoker Tailgater; Big Green Egg (2-large, small, mini); Cookshack Pellet Fired Charbroiler

03-04-2007, 03:19 PM	#9
thunderbelly On the road to being a farker Join Date: 08-13-06 Location: Brantford, Ontario Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have the 24" double and that thing holds the temps even when I am n central Ontario. __________________ "That's not my tan, it's bark" Oaklahoma Joe trailer rig WSM Traeger 70 ECB starter model

03-04-2007, 03:33 PM	#10
nmayeux Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-03-05 Location: Marietta, GA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	John, You know what I think! If you want to cook on the Lang, you just have to let me know. I realize that mine is a 60, but it will give you an idea. $4K will buy a heck of a lot of smoker from Ben Lang. __________________ Noah \#/ Nauti-Que BBQ Team Pitmaster and KCBS CBJ & CTC

03-04-2007, 04:13 PM	#12
nmayeux Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-03-05 Location: Marietta, GA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'll let you know, but please understand that mine is better than new! It lives in the garage, while the cars live outside! __________________ Noah \#/ Nauti-Que BBQ Team Pitmaster and KCBS CBJ & CTC

03-04-2007, 04:57 PM	#14
tjus77 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 10-19-06 Location: Tomball, TX Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	woo hoo, glad you are coming back to God's country. whereabouts exactly? tj __________________ *Skinny Cooks Can't Be Trusted!* Lyfe Tyme Smoker Campfire Cookset, Dutch Oven Cooking Table Variety of Cast Iron DO's Char-Griller Gas Grill, Weber Kettle Cajuns make better lovers cause we'll eat ANYTHING.

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