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Unread 10-05-2010, 09:48 PM   #6916
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@Mike W
What does the bottom shelf bolts stand on?
I like the idea of having a table/shelf when pulling the whole grate out,
just not sure how the bottom part works.

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Unread 10-05-2010, 10:30 PM   #6917
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@Mike W
What does the bottom shelf bolts stand on?
I like the idea of having a table/shelf when pulling the whole grate out,
just not sure how the bottom part works.

Thanks for the explanation.
Hi Smiter Q.
The bottom rack bolts simply dangle/hang down when used as a bottom rack. They do not support the rack when on the bottom. Bottom bolts through the drum support the bottom rack. Look close and you will see just bolts through the drum 14 in down.

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Unread 10-05-2010, 10:58 PM   #6918
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@ mikeW
I see your concept and i really like it.
I have couple of questions:

1. how many inches from the bottom for the 1st rack?
2. What are the sizes of the bolts between the racks?

thanks for your information

brunski...

1. Good question? I only know its 14 inches from the top. It's probably about 12 in from the fire. This doesn't stress me. My fire always burrows down into the middle of the coal. When I open my lid there is not a fire burning on the top coal. Itís like a soft ball size of fire in the middle of 10 inches of Royal Oak Lump. This may be due to the top layer of coal doused with drippings or my stoker fan blowing at the bottom of the basket and the fire is chasing the oxygen down to the middle of the coal. Either way if you maintain your heat correctly you'll get pretty even burns top or bottom rack. Example if you adjust your intake so the probe on your bottom rack is at 250 youíll be at about 230 on the top rack. Heat rises but the bottom rack is closer to the fire so itís a bit of a wash. Now if you adjust your intake so that your probe on your top rack is at 240 your bottom rack will be at 280+. Ok now Iím rambling.
2. The bolts are 7 in by Ĺ in. Steel bolts. Once mounted they will place the racks about 6.5 inches apart.
Thanks for inquiring!
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Unread 10-05-2010, 11:26 PM   #6919
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Just wanted to share these pretty picts of our old UDS's before replacing em with the powder coated ones we just did. I love to see picts of UDS's at competitions. Thanks for viewing and sharing in the excitement.

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Unread 10-06-2010, 08:15 PM   #6920
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With the weekend fast approaching, I added the essential hardware to my half-painted smokers (they are supposed to be ugly, right?) and currently have them seasoning with ~8lbs of kingsford briquettes in each.

They are holding temps rather well. My BBQ thermometers have 3" probes, and they are reading within a few degrees from the oven thermometer that I have sitting on the bottom rack in the middle of the drum. Not sure if that is because I went with 16" diameter x 6" high baskets or what, but it's nice that I don't have to compensate.

One of my inlet holes was a tad too large. The nipple pipe slipped right through. I used one of those conduit bolts on each side of the drum and they held tight. The mod appears to be doing a good job of holding the pipe in there when I work the cap and keeping the air out of the drum without regulation.

My wife was awesome helping me wrap these up today. I sent her out to Lowes to buy me a black nipple pipe since one of mine ended up being another similar piece. While there, she also snagged me an awesome 1/4 drill bit to replace the cheapo one that broke while I was working. And if that wasn't enough, she made up some ABTs because she insisted that I cook something on the dry run.

Thanks everybody for your help. I'll post some pics and pron for you after I catch up on chores and knock out this weekend's mega-smoke.
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Unread 10-07-2010, 07:05 AM   #6921
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What is the purpose of the blower in the bottom of the barrel? wouldnt that make the temps hotter?
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Unread 10-07-2010, 07:29 AM   #6922
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What is the purpose of the blower in the bottom of the barrel? wouldnt that make the temps hotter?
Blower is controlled by a controller and blows only to maintain a setpoint. Kinda overkill on a UDS but then boys need more toys!
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Unread 10-07-2010, 09:20 AM   #6923
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The blower with a Guru is the ultimate lazy Q tool. When I wake up at 3am to start a burn (BBQ for Sunday lunch - my designated meal to cook), I really don't feel like babying the pit to get it balanced out. On a normal burn, it could take over an hour to get everything balanced, and if my lump was damp, well then all bets were off.

With the blower, I can be cooking in about 15-30 minutes - and the temp will still be the same when I get back out of bed at 6am to check it. Too often (pre guru) I have thought I was balanced only to wake up to a cold pit.

I have also used it to cook Chicken when I wanted a stable higher temp.
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I used conduit nuts a lot - they are great, easy alternative to welding your nipples in place. I had to use them, because my steel nipples kept corroding to my pipe caps. Without conduit nuts or welding, I would never have been able to remove the caps (eventually they corroded so bad the only option was to remove the nipple with the caps on).

Keep your steel nipples oiled, or the caps will corrode onto them. I went to brass nipples to avoid that issue
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Unread 10-07-2010, 02:39 PM   #6924
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The blower with a Guru is the ultimate lazy Q tool. When I wake up at 3am to start a burn (BBQ for Sunday lunch - my designated meal to cook), I really don't feel like babying the pit to get it balanced out. On a normal burn, it could take over an hour to get everything balanced, and if my lump was damp, well then all bets were off.

With the blower, I can be cooking in about 15-30 minutes - and the temp will still be the same when I get back out of bed at 6am to check it. Too often (pre guru) I have thought I was balanced only to wake up to a cold pit.

I have also used it to cook Chicken when I wanted a stable higher temp.
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I used conduit nuts a lot - they are great, easy alternative to welding your nipples in place. I had to use them, because my steel nipples kept corroding to my pipe caps. Without conduit nuts or welding, I would never have been able to remove the caps (eventually they corroded so bad the only option was to remove the nipple with the caps on).

Keep your steel nipples oiled, or the caps will corrode onto them. I went to brass nipples to avoid that issue
I'm with you. I sometimes do small catering gigs. I cook on work nights. I take it one step further. My Stoker has a router and I just look at the graph on my laptop. I don't even lift my head off the pillow.
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Unread 10-07-2010, 04:16 PM   #6925
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[Click to enlarge]

Now thats one ugly drum!

There's a fatty on there smoking now for the seasoning. Man this thread alone is worth more than one person can express.

I started with a cheapo some-or-other brand smoker a few weeks ago, did a small brisket, and was upset with the inability to control temp. (no intake control) That was my very first attempt at smoking anything, AND it was a brisket. I did it naked, (really because I forgot to put on any rub ) but I was happy because I got to see how the flavor was. My wife made some homemade bbq sauce, and we did enjoy it. I know I should have left it on longer, but the temp spiked near 300 on me once and I was afraid of overdoing it, so shortly after internal hit 180, I pulled the brisket, rested for 1 hr, my center came out dry. But, I was overall happy with the result, and experience and I was hooked, and decided that little crappy thing wouldnt do the job.

My friend who's a member here but i dont know his board name, suggested I check out the UDS. Since i really enjoy building stuff, I dove in. I'm at a stage of completion that the drum is useable, for under 100 dollars. I've got handles to put on but I need to get more stainless hardware, I'm going to paint it and build a worktable. I lit her up, got it up to 225, closed my rear two vents, left my valve wide open, she climbed to 250 and leveled about 250, 255 (after reading suggestions on how much charcoal to use when lighting ) and thats where it has sat ever since.

Thanks to all the members on here sharing their vast amount of knowledge with those of us that want to learn the art.

(I'll hit the cattle call here soon. I'm not good at introductions when it's just "hi. I'm here to learn." Now I've got stuff to share!)
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Unread 10-08-2010, 10:58 AM   #6926
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Welome tburda. You'll love your drum.
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Unread 10-08-2010, 06:22 PM   #6927
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Just Finished Mine today. Hoping for a Good 1st Smoke on Saturday
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Unread 10-09-2010, 07:57 PM   #6928
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Well I did the first cooking on the new uds. We did some beef baby backs. Moinks. Venison backstrap and a large sirlion. I'm well pleased for the first cook. It seams that even at a lower temp it still cooks faster than my large offset pit. Half kingsford and half mesquite chunks. Been goin for 7hrs now on one basket of wood. My other pit uses half a cord of wood in that amount of time seams like.
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Unread 10-09-2010, 08:36 PM   #6929
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Well after years of avoiding anything to do with a drum, I've finally slapped one together. I'm a diehard stick burner and resisted as long as I could, but after my last two comps, feeding sticks ever 30 min @2 am is getting old.....20 min naps are not cutting it.

I seasoned it tonight an am very surprised how quick it got up to temp and how tight the control is.....cooking a brisket tomorrow, unattended for at least 4 hours.......we'll see how this goes.

Do you all draw air off of one intake or two?.......I've got two, one inch intakes(ball valve)



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Unread 10-09-2010, 09:22 PM   #6930
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Clayhill,
I start off with all three valves open. When the temp hits 150 I close one off, at 200 I close the second one and at 225 I close the last one about 1/2 way and it will cruise along for 14 hours like this.
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