The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS.


Forum Portal Recipes Smoke Signals Magazine Welocme Merchandise Associations Purchase Subscription Brethren Banners
Go Back   The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS. > Discussion Area > Q-talk

Notices

Q-talk *ON TOPIC ONLY* QUALITY ON TOPIC discussion of Backyard BBQ, grilling, Equipment and just outdoor cookin' in general, hints, tips, tricks & techniques, success, failures... but stay on topic. And watch for that hijacking.


Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 04-19-2007, 10:50 PM   #196
jgh1204
Babbling Farker
 
jgh1204's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-26-04
Location: Selma, TX(You better slow down when you hit town)
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

I hate it when my nipples get loose.
__________________
Wannabe BBQ Illuminati
jgh1204 is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-19-2007, 11:33 PM   #197
swamprb
somebody shut me the fark up.

 
swamprb's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-27-06
Location: Bothell WA
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Mine get hard just thinking about it.
__________________
Brian - Left Hand Smoke BBQ PNWBA 2010 Team of the Year
BGE's/WSM's/Pellet Pro WSM/BWS Gater/BDS Clones/Cookshack 008/Weber Performer w EZ-Que/Cajun Bandit/Rib-O-Lator Test Pilot/La Caja China/BBQ Guru/Weber 1000 RK Drum Coffee Roaster
Follow Left Hand Smoke on Facebook!http://www.facebook.com/pages/Left-H...462391?sk=wall
KCBS CBJ/PNWBA CBJ www.pnwba.com
swamprb is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-20-2007, 12:10 AM   #198
Bigmista
somebody shut me the fark up.
 
Bigmista's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-24-04
Location: Long Beach, CA
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

You guys should all be very proud of me! I put the handles on the side of my barrel all by myself tonite. I measured twice, drill the holes, put the bolts in, put the washers on, tightened them and still managed to keep all of my fingers.

And they are exactly in the side and they are level (thank you Mr. Dickey my Geometry teacher)!

And most importantly, MrsMista didn't help me at all!
__________________
Wait! Bigmista wrote a cookbook?

Exodus 29:18
Then burn the entire ram on the altar. It is a burnt offering to the LORD, a pleasing aroma, a food offering presented to the LORD.

God loves BBQ!



Bigmista Custom Spicewine Trailer - Olivia J. PIMA
Large and Medium Spicewines
Weber Ranch Kettle - E.T.

Remembering Scott
Bigmista is offline   Reply With Quote


Thanks from:--->
Unread 04-20-2007, 05:58 AM   #199
Smokin Gator
Babbling Farker
 
Smokin Gator's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-01-06
Location: Fernandina Beach FL
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Yeah Mista... I know the feeling of pride... making these things actually makes me think I could change my own oil!!!
__________________
[SIZE="2"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"]Food! It's the second most important thing to a young man, and the most important to an old one.[/FONT][/SIZE]

______________________________________________
-Brent
Smokin Gators BBQ Team

Medium Amazin' Blue Spicewine - It's a Swamp Thing
UDS
Large BGE - Adopted
Medium BGE - Adopted
Weber 22 inch w/mods
Weber SJP
Stoker
Weber Genesis Silver C Gasser
Constant wood lurker
FBA CBJ
Smokin Gator is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-20-2007, 07:58 AM   #200
Ray Zorback
Got Wood.
 
Join Date: 04-16-07
Location: Rogers, AR
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Question CraigsList Discouragement

Hey. I posted the need for a 55 Gal Steel Drum on CraigsList and here is a response I got:

Quote:
"Personally using 55gal barrels for a smoker is crappy idea. I speak from experience. The metal is too thin to effectively control the temperature for good barbeque. It would be adequate for grilling but for smoking it will only produce a very low quality product. Even if you installed a thermo sensor switch and a turbine fan. Hardwood burns closer to 500 degrees so you would need to suspend it with a grate of some sort if you want the rig to last for any extended period of time. That's why a good smoker has a separate cast iron firebox for the wood and a secondary heat source on the product side."
I'm looking for some replys to his concerns. What about the metal being too thin? & What about this "thermo sensor" & "turbine fan"?
Sounds like he knows alot about enginering & not much about smoking, but are his arguments valid?
I sent him to this site and BigMista's site to do more research.

Thanks! I'm new so I don't know much about all this stuff.
__________________
Bye for now,

Ray Zorback
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Woooo Pig Sooie![/COLOR]
[I]I worship the King of Kings, & drink the king of beers.[/I]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Works in Progress:[/COLOR]
El Cheapo Brinkmann (ECB): Refurb & Mod
Ugly Drum Smoker (UDS): Still Deciding the Design Details

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Favorite Threads[/COLOR]
[URL="http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26513"]Smoker Designs[/URL] | [URL="http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26261"]ECB Mod Talk[/URL] | [URL="http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23436"]Ugly Drum Smokers[/URL]


[SIZE="1"][I]Need property in Northwest Arkansas?
Search over 20,000 local listings at [URL="http://www.nwaray.com"]www.NWARay.com[/URL]
[/I][/SIZE]
Ray Zorback is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-20-2007, 08:08 AM   #201
bmarley5780
On the road to being a farker
 
Join Date: 04-09-07
Location: Jacksonville,NC
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Main question is: Does he have a 55 gal drum you can have? You know it works by the people on here that have posted the results...So what is the concern...
bmarley5780 is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-20-2007, 08:32 AM   #202
Ray Zorback
Got Wood.
 
Join Date: 04-16-07
Location: Rogers, AR
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
So what is the concern...
About the walls being to thin to hold heat & lasting for any period of time. Anyone ever used this thermo sensor or turbine fine?
What about the wood burning at 500 degrees? That seems a little warm, but I also thought that we try to make sure the wood doesn't FLAME UP.. right?
__________________
Bye for now,

Ray Zorback
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Woooo Pig Sooie![/COLOR]
[I]I worship the King of Kings, & drink the king of beers.[/I]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Works in Progress:[/COLOR]
El Cheapo Brinkmann (ECB): Refurb & Mod
Ugly Drum Smoker (UDS): Still Deciding the Design Details

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Favorite Threads[/COLOR]
[URL="http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26513"]Smoker Designs[/URL] | [URL="http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26261"]ECB Mod Talk[/URL] | [URL="http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23436"]Ugly Drum Smokers[/URL]


[SIZE="1"][I]Need property in Northwest Arkansas?
Search over 20,000 local listings at [URL="http://www.nwaray.com"]www.NWARay.com[/URL]
[/I][/SIZE]
Ray Zorback is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-20-2007, 08:56 AM   #203
bmarley5780
On the road to being a farker
 
Join Date: 04-09-07
Location: Jacksonville,NC
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Yes, them are concerns.

But the people are this forum have built, fired up, and cooked briskets, butts, fatties, chuckies.....etc etc. All being successful...

One thing that I have been seeing with these drums is that the heat and burn time are GREAT.
bmarley5780 is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-20-2007, 09:00 AM   #204
bmarley5780
On the road to being a farker
 
Join Date: 04-09-07
Location: Jacksonville,NC
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Ribs are done. Man, the smell is amazing. Mista, I bet you drive your neighbors crazy when cooking on yours.

This thing holds temps like a dream. 220-240 all day so far on one load of charcoal, about 1/2 bag of royal oak with about 10 briquets of Kingsford to get things going.

The butts are at 150.
example
bmarley5780 is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-20-2007, 09:12 AM   #205
Bigmista
somebody shut me the fark up.
 
Bigmista's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-24-04
Location: Long Beach, CA
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Ray,

The person who sent you that probably hasn't spent anytime learning to manage a fire. There are several reason the drums work well as a smoker.

1. The charcoal is suspended above the bottom so it doesn't get choked off by ash.

2. Airflow is restricted so burn times are extended. Some drums have held temp for 24 hours without reloading.

3. Meat is suspended at least 24" above the charcoal so the temps are lower at the grate than they are right over the fire.

4. Have the fan to help control the temp is a convenience but it isn't necessary. Once temp locks in, yo can generally count on it to stay there for at least 10 hours.

5. In a drum, the melting fat drips on the fire, evaporates and comes back up to add flavor to the meat. That's something you can't get in an offset.

6. Offsets are more work. Nothing wrong with that. Some people think of the fire managements as therapy and they like to do that. Just a different kind of cooking.

I hope this answers your questions. If you have more, we are all happy to answer them.
__________________
Wait! Bigmista wrote a cookbook?

Exodus 29:18
Then burn the entire ram on the altar. It is a burnt offering to the LORD, a pleasing aroma, a food offering presented to the LORD.

God loves BBQ!



Bigmista Custom Spicewine Trailer - Olivia J. PIMA
Large and Medium Spicewines
Weber Ranch Kettle - E.T.

Remembering Scott
Bigmista is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-20-2007, 09:48 AM   #206
thirdeye
Quintessential Chatty Farker

 
thirdeye's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-14-06
Location: At home on the range in Wyoming
Downloads: 2
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Zorback View Post
Hey. I posted the need for a 55 Gal Steel Drum on CraigsList and here is a response I got: I'm looking for some replys to his concerns. What about the metal being too thin? & What about this "thermo sensor" & "turbine fan"?
Sounds like he knows alot about enginering & not much about smoking, but are his arguments valid?
I sent him to this site and BigMista's site to do more research.

Thanks! I'm new so I don't know much about all this stuff.
Hi Ray,

That guy is right about the material being thin, but since upright drum cookers are a vertical style, and because you are cooking direct instead of indirect, a different heat flow is present and they cook differently than an offset design. Listen, I've had my drum for one year and they are great cookers. BigMista's summary pretty much tells it all. There are plenty of posts here that praise this style of cooker and it's attributes. I have plenty of action photos of my cooks as well, but the nicest collection of drum cooking photo's (that I have seen) are on the BDS site. There are 60 in all, everything from A (as in ABT's) to T (turkeys). Make sure you check out the 4 or 5 pictures of whole shoulders. They put the B in barbecue and they come out perfect when cooked on a drum.

Click HERE to check them out.

Edit: I have a guru set-up for my Eggs and a adaptor for my BDS is only $10. I'm sure I will at some point in time, but so far I haven't seen the need to set it up yet.
__________________
~thirdeye~

KCBS - CBJ
Big Green Eggs, Big Drum Smokers, Big Chiefs, Weber Smokey Joe "Custom Tall Boy"
Oil Patch Horizontal

Visit my Cookin' Site by clicking HERE
Barbecue is not rocket surgery
thirdeye is online now   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-20-2007, 10:53 AM   #207
swamprb
somebody shut me the fark up.

 
swamprb's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-27-06
Location: Bothell WA
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Is anyone interested in building an Ugly La Caja China? It's been on my mind since Clint's New Years Pig roast and Bobby Flays Throwdown! Just a thought.

It's nice outside, I think I'll start drilling into the drum now!

Brian
__________________
Brian - Left Hand Smoke BBQ PNWBA 2010 Team of the Year
BGE's/WSM's/Pellet Pro WSM/BWS Gater/BDS Clones/Cookshack 008/Weber Performer w EZ-Que/Cajun Bandit/Rib-O-Lator Test Pilot/La Caja China/BBQ Guru/Weber 1000 RK Drum Coffee Roaster
Follow Left Hand Smoke on Facebook!http://www.facebook.com/pages/Left-H...462391?sk=wall
KCBS CBJ/PNWBA CBJ www.pnwba.com
swamprb is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-20-2007, 03:56 PM   #208
Napper
On the road to being a farker
 
Join Date: 01-17-07
Location: Mobile, Alabama
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Ray,

Tell the guy to kiss your butt and go ahead and build your smoker!
I used one of mine last night to grill some steaks. It is one that I have the fan control installed. I set the fan to run continuously.

Thing was like a blacksmith's forge! Cooked the meat FAST and then I had to choke everything down before it got red hot. Temp gauge went to 500 !!!!

Worked good but it made my outside paint smell a little.

Drums Rule!
__________________
Bill Napper. Team Cook "JoeJo's BBQ"
Custom offset stickburner
Gas assisted cabinet smoker (400 lb. capacity!)
55 gal. drum smokers galore! (All custom built)
Napper is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-20-2007, 06:21 PM   #209
swamprb
somebody shut me the fark up.

 
swamprb's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-27-06
Location: Bothell WA
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Napper View Post
Ray,

Tell the guy to kiss your butt and go ahead and build your smoker!
I used one of mine last night to grill some steaks. It is one that I have the fan control installed. I set the fan to run continuously.

Thing was like a blacksmith's forge! Cooked the meat FAST and then I had to choke everything down before it got red hot. Temp gauge went to 500 !!!!

Worked good but it made my outside paint smell a little.

Drums Rule!
Bill- could you post some pics of the blowers you are using? I saw the digital controller you have set up, and noticed the wires to the pipe fitting but I'm not getting a clear picture of the fan setup. Just curious

Brian
__________________
Brian - Left Hand Smoke BBQ PNWBA 2010 Team of the Year
BGE's/WSM's/Pellet Pro WSM/BWS Gater/BDS Clones/Cookshack 008/Weber Performer w EZ-Que/Cajun Bandit/Rib-O-Lator Test Pilot/La Caja China/BBQ Guru/Weber 1000 RK Drum Coffee Roaster
Follow Left Hand Smoke on Facebook!http://www.facebook.com/pages/Left-H...462391?sk=wall
KCBS CBJ/PNWBA CBJ www.pnwba.com
swamprb is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 04-20-2007, 06:52 PM   #210
Bigmista
somebody shut me the fark up.
 
Bigmista's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-24-04
Location: Long Beach, CA
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

I agree that it's a curiousity and not a necessity.
__________________
Wait! Bigmista wrote a cookbook?

Exodus 29:18
Then burn the entire ram on the altar. It is a burnt offering to the LORD, a pleasing aroma, a food offering presented to the LORD.

God loves BBQ!



Bigmista Custom Spicewine Trailer - Olivia J. PIMA
Large and Medium Spicewines
Weber Ranch Kettle - E.T.

Remembering Scott
Bigmista is offline   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
divided circle template, uds, ugly drum, ugly drum grill, ugly drum smoker

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ugly Drum Smoker ironslob Q-talk 2 09-19-2010 10:16 AM
Ugly Drum Smoker - Need Help Bartkowiakj Q-talk 10 06-18-2010 09:38 PM
One Ugly Drum Smoker Steve_B Q-talk 15 09-21-2009 10:32 PM
My (not-so) Ugly Drum Smoker. hav Q-talk 47 11-05-2008 02:30 PM
Ceramic Cooker Meets Ugly Drum Smoker - BUDCS - Concept Drum Discussion Hook_Line_and_Sinker Q-talk 9 04-26-2008 02:24 PM

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Loading



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.6.0 Beta 4 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
2003 -2012 © BBQ-Brethren Inc. All rights reserved. All Content and Flaming Pig Logo are registered and protected under U.S and International Copyright and Trademarks. Content Within this Website Is Property of BBQ Brethren Inc. Reproduction or alteration is strictly prohibited.
no new posts