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Unread 07-27-2008, 03:42 PM   #1411
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Took me a week and a half but I read all 94 pages........I did finish my drum though. I told a fellow Chili Competitor about it and he said he could get me food grade drums cheap or free. I already have some changes in mind......... :-)
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Unread 07-27-2008, 04:38 PM   #1412
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Ok here is my firebox. The grate is a Weber replacement for a large kettle, 17" diameter. Expaneded metal is 8" tall total. Think I will build a small ring as an insert.
Grate in the background is cooking grate and inside the firebox are the fittings ready for the drum as soon as I burn it out. The inside surface of the drum has some light surface rust. Is it worth time to wire brush it, or should I just burnt it and oil it?
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Unread 07-27-2008, 05:50 PM   #1413
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I'd just burn it and cook some greasy fatties!
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Unread 07-27-2008, 06:00 PM   #1414
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just what i wanted to hear.
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Unread 07-28-2008, 07:05 AM   #1415
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Ok. If I am going to dump my barrel, where the heck do a I find another? I would even be willing to pay a fair price for new and unlined. Suggestions? Anyone in Minnesota (where I am) have any ideas?
Worth container in ST Paul - about 82 miles.

A new or reconditioned drum can run you from 30 to 80 bucks. 160 miles is about 50.00. So 130.00 on the high side if it's a dedicated trip. Burn and clean time is going to be about 10 to 12 hours ands part of that time is going to be lying in a barrel brushing out the drum. 130 .00 is a lot of money if you aren't in the city a lot. At 10.00/hr it's almost a wash.

Personally I hate brushing out the drums but sometimes you gotta do what you got to do. I'll be brushing out one tonight.
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Unread 07-28-2008, 07:18 AM   #1416
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Hey Bob why not get a round wire brush and capture it on allthread , attach it to a drill and just stroke it up and down drum? It requires a heavier drill motor but a lot easier.
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Unread 07-28-2008, 01:19 PM   #1417
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Thanks Bob. I took my existing barrel out to a friends over the weekend and burned for several hours. I started it off with 4 chimneys of red hot lump slowly started adding some oak pallet pieces. Once I got the fire raised up 8 - 10 inches of red hot coals I filled the barrel with oak pallet slats and let her rip. Once it started to settle down, I went out and cut up about 150 lbs off of a fallen maple and shoved all that in too.

6 Hours into the burn, the wood was still standing out the top of the barrel and she was flaming away. Not sure how long it flamed but I know it went on for a good long while.

My UDS in the making is comin home this afternoon for a power wash and a good scrubbin. I sure hope that fire was hot and long enough. Guess we will find out.
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Unread 07-29-2008, 06:55 AM   #1418
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Hey Bob why not get a round wire brush and capture it on allthread , attach it to a drill and just stroke it up and down drum? It requires a heavier drill motor but a lot easier.
Yeah I'm going that route. It's still easier to buy them reconditioned.
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Unread 07-29-2008, 07:08 AM   #1419
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Hey Bob why not get a round wire brush and capture it on allthread , attach it to a drill and just stroke it up and down drum? It requires a heavier drill motor but a lot easier.
I'm sure I will sound like an idiot here but what does "capture it on all thread" mean? I am going to start cleaning up my drum tonight and have a decent drill. I don't have an angle grinder.

This is going to be a lot of work so anything I can do to make it go smoothly would be awesome.
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Unread 07-29-2008, 07:16 AM   #1420
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FWIW, I got my drum at a wholesale motor oil facility. The drum was $60 but it was brand new, unlined and only painted on the outside. The burn was quick and only took 20 minutes to remove the outer paint once the fire got going. After the burn, I was able to wash the outer paint off with a scotchbrite pad. Could not have been easier. The inside did not have a liner but did have what seemed like a slight oil film for rust prevention. The film was gone after the burn.

There are plenty of wholesale places that sell 55 gallon drums of offbrand motor oil. Most of these drums are unlined. Although $60 might seem like a lot for a drum, the transition from new drum to UDS was quick and fairly clean.

I guess we all have to decided how much we want to save initially. For me, my time is worth more than the hassle of burning and grinding to save a couple of dollars. For those on Long Island, I got my drum from Miles Petroleum in Farmingdale. I think they have facilities in other states.
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Unread 07-29-2008, 07:38 AM   #1421
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what does "capture it on all thread" mean?
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Picture a piece of all thread 1/2" diameter. Nut/washer/round wire brush/washer/nut. Tighten centered in brush hole (hole is 5/8"-11thd.).
Like this.... Brush being drum, allthread being bolt.
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Thanks Norco! I'm off to the hardware store after work. Weeeeeee.....
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Unread 07-30-2008, 10:40 AM   #1423
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Ok. Wire wheel and cup brush =good! I am having a ball but the wife says my moniker should be "dirty farker" rather then "looking for matches" or whatever it is. I looked like a freakin coal miner last night and I am only half done.

The good news, barrel is looking good and the 95 pages of insight and wisdom here have been more valuable to me then words can describe.

Fatties and Butts soon... I will also have some pictures of the build and my first pron.
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Unread 07-30-2008, 10:42 AM   #1424
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Make the first cook greasy! Lay down a good foundation. You'll have this one for awhile.
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Ok here is my firebox. The grate is a Weber replacement for a large kettle, 17" diameter. Expaneded metal is 8" tall total. Think I will build a small ring as an insert.
Grate in the background is cooking grate and inside the firebox are the fittings ready for the drum as soon as I burn it out. The inside surface of the drum has some light surface rust. Is it worth time to wire brush it, or should I just burnt it and oil it?
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