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Unread 07-19-2013, 03:37 PM   #11116
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Hey all, just wanted to thank everyone for all the info they share about building these smokers. After reading about 60 pages of this thread, i couldnt sit still anymore and made a phone call to a family member who works for a company that gets rid of drums weekly. The drums held used cooking oil and had the liner, but the weed burner made short work of that. I definitely followed the KISS method and there are no bells and whistles on this one, just a straight up smoker. Once the paint is on (and i figure out how to) I will post some pics. Man are these things fantastic and i cant wait to use the heck out of it. Thanks again
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Unread 07-19-2013, 10:04 PM   #11117
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ClayQ do you have any plans or drawings for that table? I really dig it and would like to build one myself. Thanks!!
Sorry no plans. This was a project that grew from a box made of 3/4" construction plywood. I used deck screw fasteners and biscuits with high temp silicone adhesive to join the panels. Old fashion milk paint -lamp black- and linseed oil for a protectant and neumatic wheels from Harbor Freight completed this table. Hope this helps. Be creative and build your table to suit your needs. Custom work is a big part of making your own smoker. Have fun and thanks for the complement.
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Unread 07-19-2013, 10:16 PM   #11118
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ClayQ, did you originally cook with direct heat, as most drum users do? If so, are you still doing so with your superinsulated version? (Still not using a heat deflector?) Are your meat drippings getting vaporized on the lower fires you're burning now?
Most of my cooks are indirect but I often go direct over coals to finish the meat. As an example I cook wings indirect then the last 15 or 20 minutes I'll go direct to crisp up the edges that add both flavor and apperance. My setup in the drum has three grid levels above the charcoal. The one closest to the fire is used to hold a large pizza pan that works as my heat deflector and my drip pan. Two more grids above is for cooking/smoking meat. I have grilled on the lowest grid for searing. I burn 2/3 less lump charcoal after insulating, very pleased with that.
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Unread 07-19-2013, 10:23 PM   #11119
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Most of my cooks are indirect but I often go direct over coals to finish the meat. As an example I cook wings indirect then the last 15 or 20 minutes I'll go direct to crisp up the edges that add both flavor and apperance. My setup in the drum has three grid levels above the charcoal. The one closest to the fire is used to hold a large pizza pan that works as my heat deflector and my drip pan. Two more grids above is for cooking/smoking meat. I have grilled on the lowest grid for searing. I burn 2/3 less lump charcoal after insulating, very pleased with that.
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Unread 07-19-2013, 10:38 PM   #11120
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Clay Q.......I like the way you boxed the drum and added insulation. I wonder instead of fiberglass insulation if perlite or vermiculite would also be effective as they can take very high temps and are also readily available at most garden centers.
I thought about vermiculite but decided not to because I did not want loose insulation working it's way out the bottom where I have my air intake. Vermiculite would work out good as an insulator though, just pour it in but my drum box is not air tight. I have inside ventelation at each corner of the box where the joints are-panel edge to panel side. There is an intake at each bottom corner and a exhaust at each corner top. You cannot see them because they are under the table top and box. This is to keep the corners relativly cool by allowing airflow to travel into and out of the plywood box. Fiberglass insulation is next to the drum with aluminum sheet flashing encasing the fiberglass on all sides including top and bottom creating a 3" thick heat barrier. The drum is fastened to the plywood bottom using 1 1/4" ceraimic spacers. So far my table has not caught on fire, he he. It's an amazing cooker and I'm having fun.
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Unread 07-23-2013, 07:27 AM   #11121
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Well I snagged a UniFlame grill and I'm going to try to fit the lid to my UDS. Wish me luck. It's 22" instead of 22.5 as a Weber is but I have seen some done.
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Unread 07-24-2013, 11:50 AM   #11122
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Default First UDS - Need to use the KISS principle

Hello All. Thanks for this thread - very educational. I found a new, unlined drum. It does not have the ribs that I am used to seeing on 'typical' drums. I know they reinforce the sides.

Has anyone used a drum like this? Do you think the lack of ribs will be a MAJOR issue, or just a potential nuisance?
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Unread 07-24-2013, 05:39 PM   #11123
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Thanks to all the great info that helped me build my uds.. Couldn't be happier with the results

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Unread 07-24-2013, 06:30 PM   #11124
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You'll just need to be careful handling it when moving it around to ensure
that you don't inadvertently dent in the sides...
Good Luck with your build..

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Hello All. Thanks for this thread - very educational. I found a new, unlined drum. It does not have the ribs that I am used to seeing on 'typical' drums. I know they reinforce the sides.

Has anyone used a drum like this? Do you think the lack of ribs will be a MAJOR issue, or just a potential nuisance?
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Unread 07-24-2013, 08:08 PM   #11125
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Check out my UDS build!!!
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=166390
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I have been inundated on this thread with all manner of "fancy" designs of UDS's, most out of my creative skill level, esp "team logo" smokers. I especially like this one because it pays homage to the original use of the barrel. There is a funky charm to it and for my money it is the essence of the Ugly Drum Smoker, a venerable workhorse re-purposed as a utilitarian piece of equipment still pulling its weight. Thanks for the post and pictures.
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Unread 07-26-2013, 11:02 AM   #11127
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Took me a while to read it all but finally got through it and built one. Works great for such a simple system. Had a ECB and Walmart $99 sidebox both of which are junk. The sidebox takes so much tending and the ECB peters out after 5 hours. This thing seems like it will run for days on a basket of lump charcoal. I have about $40 invested and its worth every penny. Its great to be able to put meat on before bed and wake up in the morning to a delicious hunk of BBQ.
Thanks to all who contributed to this thread.
Oh heres a pic because of course no pictures means it didn't happen.
I have been inundated on this thread with all manner of "fancy" designs of UDS's, most out of my creative skill level, esp "team logo" smokers. I especially like this one because it pays homage to the original use of the barrel. There is a funky charm to it and for my money it is the essence of the Ugly Drum Smoker, a venerable workhorse re-purposed as a utilitarian piece of equipment still pulling its weight. Thanks for the post and pictures.

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Most of my cooks are indirect but I often go direct over coals to finish the meat. As an example I cook wings indirect then the last 15 or 20 minutes I'll go direct to crisp up the edges that add both flavor and apperance. My setup in the drum has three grid levels above the charcoal. The one closest to the fire is used to hold a large pizza pan that works as my heat deflector and my drip pan. Two more grids above is for cooking/smoking meat. I have grilled on the lowest grid for searing. I burn 2/3 less lump charcoal after insulating, very pleased with that.
I am starting a UDS build, and I want to include the option of a deflector / water pan. Can you post pics of your UDS, and also, some dimensions of your rack supports, coal basket, etc.?
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Default First UDS - A Few Questions

Hello all. I have read through dozens of pages of this thread, but not all of them. So I apologize if I ask a question that has already been discussed.

1. I have a new drum that is plain steel on the inside, and a gloss finish on the outside. I need to remove the outside paint before applying high temp paint right? Has anyone used Rustoleum "Aircraft Remover"? It is a paint removing spray. A few videos show it working well.

2. Should I apply a high temp primer before the finish coat?

3. I've seen some pretty fancy UDSs. Where can I get high temp paint in colors other than black, brown and grey?

4. I see that some of you use stainless hardware. I have read that galvanized is bad. Is zinc-plated hardware OK?

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4. you can use zinc-plated but need to burn the zinc off.
3. Engine pant is all that is really needed. Didn't remove the paint, just painted over it.
2.Not necessary, see 3
1.See 2 and 3.
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