Uh oh?

Sawdustguy · 09-23-2006, 08:59 PM

We took delivery on our Battlewagon Friday. It is a 2007 Haulmark Grizzly 8.5 x 14. The trailer is very nice and I plan to cook like Smokin Cracker and cook on the tailgate. The problem is with the tailgate down the trailer is 23' long. Alot of the contests in this area only offer 20 x 20 spaces. do you think this is really going to be a problem? I would be willing to pay for extra space. BTW.... I will have pictures of Spicey and the trailer soon.

we'll smoke u · 09-23-2006, 09:02 PM

Way to go Sawdustguy I know you will like it. I'am thinking about getting a bigger one my self. Good luck with it.

Sledneck · 09-23-2006, 09:07 PM

Guy, Anybody give you a problem let me know and i will take care of them

The_Kapn · 09-23-2006, 09:11 PM

Guy,
I do not know about your area.
But, down here, dimensions are "about".
Normally, the goal is to not infringe on your neighbors real estate without discussion.
We "overlap" a lot sometimes.

In addition, most promoters are realizing that 20 X 20 just "don't get it" anymore! Most of the major teams could not get their tow vehicle into a strictly enforced site that small and would just not show up.

Should not be a problem--tight--but not a problem (I hope)

TIM

HoDeDo · 09-23-2006, 09:12 PM

We have a 20x31.5 5th wheel. (we have alot of 20x30 spots) I have not had anyone give us trouble.... If you are up front - call the person coordinating, and ask what options are available for a trailer that is 23' - they will usually accomidate. I also write it on my entry form as a gentle reminder.....

Never had an issue with it or my old pop-up.

Sawdustguy · 09-23-2006, 09:21 PM

Andy,

I think that is the Key! Be honest and upfront with the organizer and he will acomodate you. I also think Tim is right in that they loosely determine dimensions. I think I am worrying over nothing.

Sledneck · 09-23-2006, 09:28 PM

Next summer at grill kings you can go the 3 feet into my space but i want some of that fried chicken

BBQchef33 · 09-23-2006, 10:14 PM

doubt u will ever havew a problem.. I usually take up 20X20 plus room for a truck. :)

Sawdustguy · 09-24-2006, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledneck

Next summer at grill kings you can go the 3 feet into my space but i want some of that fried chicken

You have a deal. I knew I could depend on you Steve.

kcpellethead · 09-24-2006, 08:14 AM

Man, I don't relish making this post, but I have to disagree with most of you. In my opinion, you should never assume being 3' too long is going to be okay. I like the idea presented here of informing the contest organizer well before hand and including that information on your entry form. However, most of the time that one organizer has so many irons in the fire, remembering one entrant is over length will slip the mind of all but the best contest organizers. Also, I feel like a contestant should never assume it's going to be okay to encroach on a fellow contestants space 3', let alone 6". It's not right, plain and simple. I can't tell you how many events we've cooked where we arrive and the team next to us "just needed a couple extra feet." Well, guess what, we fit in a 20' x 20', not an 18' x 20' and now that team has screwed up our site by being inconsiderate. And don't even get me started about the guys that line up the pits right on the line adjacent to other teams so at least a couple feet of that team's space is unusable.

Be considerate of others. Most teams are friendly and will give the space they need if they can. But when in doubt, buy the extra space.

Wow, that was kind of therapeutic. Thnx for letting me rant. I read all of the posts, and I know my response isn't exactly completely on point. However, as competition barbecue continues to grow, so does the need to squeeze more teams into the same areas. All contest organizers can do is cram us all together. . . . .

Rod

parrothead · 09-24-2006, 09:46 AM

Ihave to agree with Rod on this. Now however if you are short space and talk it through with the people next to you then that is fine. Most comps that I have been to allow for paying for extra space.

Rod, I love your sig line.

Sawdustguy · 09-24-2006, 11:32 AM

Its really not a big deal. Even though I would love to leave the cooker on the tailgate, I can just as easily offload the cooker and leave the trailer tailgate up so I would be 17' instead of 23' if I had to. There is always plan "B". I try to never leave myself in a situation without an alternate plan.

voodoobbqIL · 09-25-2006, 08:23 AM

I took the time and drew out our setup as a line drawing with dimensions. I send that with my entry. That way it shows the organizer what I am thinking.

just a thought.

CharlieBeasley · 09-25-2006, 11:53 AM

Great Guy Pictures?

Sawdustguy · 09-25-2006, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieBeasley

Great Guy Pictures?

Coming soon Charlie.

09-23-2006, 08:59 PM	#1
Sawdustguy Babbling Farker Join Date: 09-14-05 Location: Manorville, Long Island Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Uh oh? We took delivery on our Battlewagon Friday. It is a 2007 Haulmark Grizzly 8.5 x 14. The trailer is very nice and I plan to cook like Smokin Cracker and cook on the tailgate. The problem is with the tailgate down the trailer is 23' long. Alot of the contests in this area only offer 20 x 20 spaces. do you think this is really going to be a problem? I would be willing to pay for extra space. BTW.... I will have pictures of Spicey and the trailer soon. __________________ Guy (Brewmaster and Pitmaster) BBQ Team: *Two Fat Polocks BBQ Team* Brewery: Black Dog Brewery BBQ Equipment: "Sam I Am": XL Big Green Egg "Barbra Q": Lang 84 Deluxe "R2 and D2": Twin 22" Weber Smokey Mountains Brewery: Custom Made Automated Souped Up Sabco

09-23-2006, 09:02 PM	#2
we'll smoke u is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 07-21-06 Location: Valley, Nebraska Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Way to go Sawdustguy I know you will like it. I'am thinking about getting a bigger one my self. Good luck with it. __________________ Scott Burke www.wellsmokeubbq.com www.operationbbqmw.org KCBS MEMBER #24303 COUNTRY SMOKER 570 PELLET FEEDER ONE SMALL HOME MADE VERTICAL WEBER KETTLE GOLD 221/2 WEBER BABYQ

09-23-2006, 09:07 PM	#3
Sledneck is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-04-05 Location: Wantagh, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Guy, Anybody give you a problem let me know and i will take care of them __________________ BBQ Illuminati Blog Disclaimer: The poster does not take any responsibility for any bad feelings or sense of exclusion that the reader of this post may have-whether real or imagined. Reading threads poses inherent risks. The poster of this thread would like to also remind readers to make sure they have a functional sense of humor before they visit any discussion board.

09-23-2006, 09:11 PM	#4
The_Kapn Moderator Emeritus Join Date: 04-08-04 Location: Marianna, FL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Guy, I do not know about your area. But, down here, dimensions are "about". Normally, the goal is to not infringe on your neighbors real estate without discussion. We "overlap" a lot sometimes. In addition, most promoters are realizing that 20 X 20 just "don't get it" anymore! Most of the major teams could not get their tow vehicle into a strictly enforced site that small and would just not show up. Should not be a problem--tight--but not a problem (I hope) TIM __________________ "Flirtin' with Disaster" BBQ Team (RETIRED) FBA and KCBS Cook and Judge. Former owner of a WSM, a Smokey Joe, a Charbroil Commercial gasser (junk), and the legendary "StudeDera". Now cooking with a FEC100, a Traeger Lil' Tex, and a Fast Eddy PG500 Proud Pellet guy cooking on real wood.

09-23-2006, 09:12 PM	#5
HoDeDo Babbling Farker Join Date: 02-19-06 Location: Kansas City Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We have a 20x31.5 5th wheel. (we have alot of 20x30 spots) I have not had anyone give us trouble.... If you are up front - call the person coordinating, and ask what options are available for a trailer that is 23' - they will usually accomidate. I also write it on my entry form as a gentle reminder..... Never had an issue with it or my old pop-up. __________________ Andy /Smoke on Wheels Competition BBQ - www.smokeonwheels.com

09-23-2006, 09:21 PM	#6
Sawdustguy Babbling Farker Join Date: 09-14-05 Location: Manorville, Long Island Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Andy, I think that is the Key! Be honest and upfront with the organizer and he will acomodate you. I also think Tim is right in that they loosely determine dimensions. I think I am worrying over nothing. __________________ Guy (Brewmaster and Pitmaster) BBQ Team: *Two Fat Polocks BBQ Team* Brewery: Black Dog Brewery BBQ Equipment: "Sam I Am": XL Big Green Egg "Barbra Q": Lang 84 Deluxe "R2 and D2": Twin 22" Weber Smokey Mountains Brewery: Custom Made Automated Souped Up Sabco

09-23-2006, 09:28 PM	#7
Sledneck is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-04-05 Location: Wantagh, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Next summer at grill kings you can go the 3 feet into my space but i want some of that fried chicken __________________ BBQ Illuminati Blog Disclaimer: The poster does not take any responsibility for any bad feelings or sense of exclusion that the reader of this post may have-whether real or imagined. Reading threads poses inherent risks. The poster of this thread would like to also remind readers to make sure they have a functional sense of humor before they visit any discussion board.

09-23-2006, 10:14 PM	#8
BBQchef33 Grand Poobah and Site Admin Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Long Island, NY Downloads: 10 Uploads: 4	doubt u will ever havew a problem.. I usually take up 20X20 plus room for a truck. :) __________________ Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Klose built MoAB (Mother of All Banderas) passed on to Big Dog, 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 1 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 1 Pit Barrel Cooker, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM

09-24-2006, 08:14 AM	#10
kcpellethead Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 07-25-05 Location: Kansas City Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Man, I don't relish making this post, but I have to disagree with most of you. In my opinion, you should never assume being 3' too long is going to be okay. I like the idea presented here of informing the contest organizer well before hand and including that information on your entry form. However, most of the time that one organizer has so many irons in the fire, remembering one entrant is over length will slip the mind of all but the best contest organizers. Also, I feel like a contestant should never assume it's going to be okay to encroach on a fellow contestants space 3', let alone 6". It's not right, plain and simple. I can't tell you how many events we've cooked where we arrive and the team next to us "just needed a couple extra feet." Well, guess what, we fit in a 20' x 20', not an 18' x 20' and now that team has screwed up our site by being inconsiderate. And don't even get me started about the guys that line up the pits right on the line adjacent to other teams so at least a couple feet of that team's space is unusable. Be considerate of others. Most teams are friendly and will give the space they need if they can. But when in doubt, buy the extra space. Wow, that was kind of therapeutic. Thnx for letting me rant. I read all of the posts, and I know my response isn't exactly completely on point. However, as competition barbecue continues to grow, so does the need to squeeze more teams into the same areas. All contest organizers can do is cram us all together. . . . . Rod __________________ Rod If I do everything half ass, how can I be a "full fledged" anything?

09-24-2006, 09:46 AM	#11
parrothead somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 08-13-03 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ihave to agree with Rod on this. Now however if you are short space and talk it through with the people next to you then that is fine. Most comps that I have been to allow for paying for extra space. Rod, I love your sig line. __________________ Greg American Picker Blog

09-24-2006, 11:32 AM	#12
Sawdustguy Babbling Farker Join Date: 09-14-05 Location: Manorville, Long Island Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Its really not a big deal. Even though I would love to leave the cooker on the tailgate, I can just as easily offload the cooker and leave the trailer tailgate up so I would be 17' instead of 23' if I had to. There is always plan "B". I try to never leave myself in a situation without an alternate plan. __________________ Guy (Brewmaster and Pitmaster) BBQ Team: *Two Fat Polocks BBQ Team* Brewery: Black Dog Brewery BBQ Equipment: "Sam I Am": XL Big Green Egg "Barbra Q": Lang 84 Deluxe "R2 and D2": Twin 22" Weber Smokey Mountains Brewery: Custom Made Automated Souped Up Sabco

09-25-2006, 08:23 AM	#13
voodoobbqIL Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 10-03-05 Location: Louisville, KY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I took the time and drew out our setup as a line drawing with dimensions. I send that with my entry. That way it shows the organizer what I am thinking. just a thought. __________________ Kevin a.k.a. Smokcrates, BBQ P[FONT=Arial]hilosopher[/FONT] Partners in Swine Comp. BBQ Team KCBS CBJ Ole' Hickory CTO / large BGE 2 x Weber 22.5 One Touch Silver (red , black) Weber Smokey Joe Char-Broil Gas Passer

09-25-2006, 11:53 AM	#14
CharlieBeasley is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 09-12-05 Location: Owego, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Great Guy Pictures? __________________ Charlie Beasley New Owner of old Bandera (8 years or so) New Smokette 008 (Love IT)