ブタ
The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS.


Forum Portal Recipes Smoke Signals Magazine Welocme Merchandise Associations Purchase Subscription Brethren Banners
Go Back   The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS. > Discussion Area > Competition BBQ

Notices

Competition BBQ *On Topic Only* Discussion regarding all aspects of Competition BBQ. Experiences competing or visiting, questions, getting started, Equipment, announcements of events, Results, Reviews, Planning, etc. Questions here will be responded to with competition BBQ in mind.


Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 07-19-2006, 10:46 AM   #1
parrothead
somebody shut me the fark up.
 
parrothead's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-13-03
Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default The things that make a contest great - Service and amenities

Services and amenities

Or good at the very least. This is in line with Phil and others trying to "fix" grill kings and a thread I wanted to start anyway.

What are some of the best things you have ran accross at competitions? THose little things that are nice, but are noticed if they are missing. This will be one of at least two threads maybe more so there is a little more continuity.

Suggestions can be based on actual experiences or just a wish list.

Three things that are probably foremost are water, ice, grass.

My experiences with these are. Shannon. This year they delivered water to your sight as needed. We had enough with us so didn't need it, but I am sure that everybody else appreciated it.

Ice. In Peoria last year they delivered ice to you---free---as much as you wanted. That was freaking awesome.

Grass All of my competitions have been on grass except for last year when I visited Phil. Grass is the way to go. period.

One last thing. We don't need to make a list of bad things that have happened. Lets just concentrate on what we are seeing out there that makes a competition good.
__________________
Greg

American Picker Blog

Last edited by parrothead; 07-19-2006 at 12:17 PM..
parrothead is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 10:58 AM   #2
voodoobbqIL
Full Fledged Farker
 
voodoobbqIL's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-03-05
Location: Louisville, KY
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

I agree we are all guilty of just ranting and raving about the issues. But last night a big bright spot hit I spend over and hour on the phone with the event organizer for Bloomington, IL. I told him some things that really worked at past contests and I think if he does half of that stuff it will be a premier event. I agree about Peoria last year and then the one bad issue I heard from that one was someone complaining about the prize money...hence No Peoria this year. I think we forget sometimes that these event guys have a lot to do. I know that there are references from KCBS about how to have a contest but maybe there should be "crib notes" for the event organizer to work from that has some of the best things from all of the contests. I heard that Shannon was great and I am looking forward to some others around the northern IL area that should be great. I am pretty sure that anyone is our community would love to chat with organizers for any length of time to help them out. Sure they can't give us the world but maybe we can save them being hammered on in threads the day after the contest.
__________________
Kevin a.k.a. Smokcrates, BBQ P[FONT=Arial]hilosopher[/FONT]
Partners in Swine Comp. BBQ Team
KCBS CBJ
Ole' Hickory CTO /
large BGE
2 x Weber 22.5 One Touch Silver (red , black)
Weber Smokey Joe
Char-Broil Gas Passer
voodoobbqIL is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 11:04 AM   #3
parrothead
somebody shut me the fark up.
 
parrothead's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-13-03
Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by voodoobbqIL
I agree we are all guilty of just ranting and raving about the issues. But last night a big bright spot hit I spend over and hour on the phone with the event organizer for Bloomington, IL. I told him some things that really worked at past contests and I think if he does half of that stuff it will be a premier event. I agree about Peoria last year and then the one bad issue I heard from that one was someone complaining about the prize money...hence No Peoria this year. I think we forget sometimes that these event guys have a lot to do. I know that there are references from KCBS about how to have a contest but maybe there should be "crib notes" for the event organizer to work from that has some of the best things from all of the contests. I heard that Shannon was great and I am looking forward to some others around the northern IL area that should be great. I am pretty sure that anyone is our community would love to chat with organizers for any length of time to help them out. Sure they can't give us the world but maybe we can save them being hammered on in threads the day after the contest.
That's good to hear. I plan on doing Bloomington as well.

Here is another thought. I have never been to one that has any kind of shower area, but if a site were found that had one, I'll bet that would be nice to help wake up in the morning as well as maybe after tear down before going home.
__________________
Greg

American Picker Blog
parrothead is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 11:15 AM   #4
BBQchef33
Grand Poobah and Site Admin
 
BBQchef33's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-11-03
Location: Long Island, NY
Downloads: 13
Uploads: 4
Default

Heres what I would see.... from a team/competitor/ human being. I wa nt to be comfortable, effective and have fun.

Necessities. Water, Ice, Power, Comfort(Shade/grass).

The things that make a contest 'Team Friendly'.

Goodie bags..

Organizer Sponsored dinner and Breakfast

Things to make if fun for the family too. (craft shows, festivals, etc..) this is NOT to say at the expense of the promoter, but to tie the even INTO something else, a la Guitarbeque tied into a music festival, or Podunk bluegrass festival, Key Largo ties it to a town wide "Key largo day" type thing.. family members who are not cooking or pit help dont want to jsut sit under the tent all day.

In the hot areas...... Outdoor showers... How many of us were dumping water over our heads.. filling hats with cooler water, etc... how easy is it to have those 'pool showers' scattered around the sites?? They are 100 bucks, and to be able to just go stand under that for a minute.. its a simple stupid creature comfort that can be appreciated after an hour in front of a fire box. Venues with bathroom/shower facilities would be even better to clean up at night or after the contest, bU tthe outdoor pool showers at the end of rows would be some quick relief.

this is a great thread.. and it can go places!!
__________________
Site Administrator and
Grand PooBah

CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Klose built MoAB (Mother of All Banderas) passed on to Big Dog, 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 1 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 1 Pit Barrel Cooker, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :(

News Flash:
"A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity "

You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy


Smoke on KC.
WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM
BBQchef33 is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 11:24 AM   #5
parrothead
somebody shut me the fark up.
 
parrothead's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-13-03
Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Yep, breakfast. Shannon gives us biscuits and gravy, coffee, donuts, juice. It's always nice. On less meal to feed the crew.
__________________
Greg

American Picker Blog
parrothead is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 11:56 AM   #6
Jeff_in_KC
somebody shut me the fark up.
 
Jeff_in_KC's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-04-05
Location: Pleasant Hill, MO
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Ice either free or at cost
Shower facilities (a lot of BBQ contests around here are in campgrounds)
Water readily available (at each site is better or at the least, bring it to us)
Goodie bags at check in
Cooks meetings NOT scheduled at dinner time on Friday night
Have a Kid's Q contest and don't make it right before chicken turn-in time!!!
Free coffee, donuts or biscuits and gravy on Saturday morning
ALWAYS offer electricity, even if paying extra for it!
Bring the official clock around to each camp on Saturday morning to be sure everyone is accurate
Enforce quiet hours
Have a contest organizer there and available 24 hours
Check often to see if we need anything
__________________
KCBS Member #14287
Jeff_in_KC is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 12:29 PM   #7
kcquer
Lives in Spirit
 
kcquer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-17-04
Location: Wherever there's Sweet Blue
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Grass All of my competitions have been on grass except for last year when I visited Phil. Grass is the way to go. period.
Ever been to a contest when it rains? If Boone County '04 had been on grass, they'd still be trying to get people out of the venue.
kcquer is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 12:35 PM   #8
voodoobbqIL
Full Fledged Farker
 
voodoobbqIL's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10-03-05
Location: Louisville, KY
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Regularly services pottys
Outdoor showers
plenty of ash pits
regular trash pick up

The Bloomington event will have something from the conversation last night that we will call a "bbq concierge" this person will be going around all day to check and see if you need something. If you do he will get the proper folks over to you with ice, water, trash whatever...
Also there will be someone there to check you in as soon as you pull up so you don't have to chase anyone down.

service...that's what makes a contest great
__________________
Kevin a.k.a. Smokcrates, BBQ P[FONT=Arial]hilosopher[/FONT]
Partners in Swine Comp. BBQ Team
KCBS CBJ
Ole' Hickory CTO /
large BGE
2 x Weber 22.5 One Touch Silver (red , black)
Weber Smokey Joe
Char-Broil Gas Passer
voodoobbqIL is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 12:56 PM   #9
cmcadams
Quintessential Chatty Farker

 
cmcadams's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-15-06
Location: Waynesville, Ohio
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Having an edible breakfast vs. just having breakfast is good.

Running water to hook up my hose to, so I can control it at my site

Electricity

A nice area. I personally like being able to look around and enjoy what I see... not a problem at any so far, just something I like.

Frequent delivery of ice. If they charge, I'd like to prepay for an amount so I don't have to fumble for dollar bills in the middle of everything else.

showers
__________________
Curt McAdams
Livefire Blog

Livefire Whisky

CBJ, some comps, a few awards, Certified Artisan Steak Taster.

XL Big Green Egg, Bubba Keg Convection Grill, Weber Kettle, Charbroil Infrared and mad livefire cooking skillz! :)
cmcadams is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 03:04 PM   #10
Al Dente
Found some matches.
 
Join Date: 07-05-06
Location: Westbury, NY
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

My family went looking to by some of those misters that you see at amusment parks to set up. Came up empty handed.

But how about a slop sink area where you could REALLY wash your dirty pots and cutting boards. The 3 bin set-up is OK, but it's not real effective to bigger items.

I agree with the water, ice, and grass. Definite necessities. Goodie bags would be nice. i've heard of them at other contests, but don't expect them.

And just an open line of communication. That to me is very important. Good news or bad news, we all need to know.

I think as far as a meal goes, Willie always makes clams casino, I make a pot of chili, Phil had the linguine and clam sauce. If we all bring something, it can be a pot luck dinner. For breakfast on comp day, how about big overfilled fritattas, some bagels, juice, and joe.

All the best, Al.

}}}}---------------------------------------------->
Al Dente is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 03:15 PM   #11
SinginBob
Full Fledged Farker
 
SinginBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-03-06
Location: Jasper, IN
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff_in_KC
Ice either free or at cost
Shower facilities (a lot of BBQ contests around here are in campgrounds)
Water readily available (at each site is better or at the least, bring it to us)
Goodie bags at check in
Cooks meetings NOT scheduled at dinner time on Friday night
Have a Kid's Q contest and don't make it right before chicken turn-in time!!!
Free coffee, donuts or biscuits and gravy on Saturday morning
ALWAYS offer electricity, even if paying extra for it!
Bring the official clock around to each camp on Saturday morning to be sure everyone is accurate
Enforce quiet hours
Have a contest organizer there and available 24 hours
Check often to see if we need anything
Jeff, I can send you a listof contests that have shower facilities if you need it so you van plan accordingly!

Free coffe on saturday morning would be nice.

Another great contest is Osage city, KS--free ice, friendly people and they are constantly around asking if you need anything. I actually don't mind walking to get water there becasue they treat you so well.

As for quiet hours, I can only think of one contest this year where that was a problem (Lawrence) and the reps put those guys down!
__________________
______________
Singin' Bob
Hoosier Meatheads
UBC, WSM, Weber Kettle

Alas for those that never sing,
But die with all their music in them!
~Oliver Wendell Holmes
SinginBob is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 03:20 PM   #12
cmcadams
Quintessential Chatty Farker

 
cmcadams's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-15-06
Location: Waynesville, Ohio
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

On breakfast, I've been to a comp where it was pretty good, and another where you it was cold sausage gravy and hard biscuits... if it's the former, it's really nice, if it's the latter, it's more a nuisance than anything... a waste of my time and energy to get the food.
__________________
Curt McAdams
Livefire Blog

Livefire Whisky

CBJ, some comps, a few awards, Certified Artisan Steak Taster.

XL Big Green Egg, Bubba Keg Convection Grill, Weber Kettle, Charbroil Infrared and mad livefire cooking skillz! :)
cmcadams is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 03:29 PM   #13
The_Kapn
Moderator Emeritus

 
The_Kapn's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-08-04
Location: Marianna, FL
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Service starts with planning and information PRIOR to the event.

I just received our packet for Ft Rucker.
Must weigh a half pound

Schedules, locations, and maps for everything in detail.
Detailed instructions about security on Military Base.
Listing of what would happen at check-in and what we would receive there. Stuff like the rest of passes and arm bands will be handled there.
Strict "no pets" (dogs) in cooking area. Certainly hope a couple of teams catch that because MP's "under orders" will do their jobs.
Even explained that winner's checks will be sent from a payment center in TX. They will FedEX results and payment center has commited to 24 hour turnaround. Direct deposit even available.
1099's required, so they sent them ahead so the teams could have them ready and not stumble around or be surprised.

I could go on and on--but, basically, no question left unanswered as far as I can tell.
And, they admit they will make mistakes as a first year event and have two "command centers" on site that will be manned 24/7 to work out any kinks

This sets a whole new "bar" for the prep phase!
I'm spoiled, for sure.
Now, if we can just cook our "A Game"
Tons of cash on the line.

TIM
__________________
"Flirtin' with Disaster" BBQ Team (RETIRED)
FBA and KCBS Cook and Judge.
Former owner of a WSM, a Smokey Joe, a Charbroil Commercial gasser (junk), the legendary "StudeDera", a Fast Eddy PG500, and Sherman.
Now cooking with a Yoder YS640
Proud Pellet guy cooking on real wood.
The_Kapn is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 03:37 PM   #14
Jeff_in_KC
somebody shut me the fark up.
 
Jeff_in_KC's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-04-05
Location: Pleasant Hill, MO
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

I agree Tim... and it sounds like they have everything in order. I also appreciate it when a comp sends a list of teams and a space assignment map out ahead of time.

These are excellent threads, by the way! Thanks Greg!
__________________
KCBS Member #14287
Jeff_in_KC is offline   Reply With Quote


Unread 07-19-2006, 06:22 PM   #15
The_Kapn
Moderator Emeritus

 
The_Kapn's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-08-04
Location: Marianna, FL
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff_in_KC
I agree Tim... and it sounds like they have everything in order. I also appreciate it when a comp sends a list of teams and a space assignment map out ahead of time.

These are excellent threads, by the way! Thanks Greg!
Why would actual sites or team names be of any use before the event?
When I say that- I realize that Grill Kings is a "one of a kind" deal and "special" cause it is in New Yawk

The organizer probably does not have all of that set till the last minute and I can not think of any useful need for it.
If there is some team I need to coordinate with, I would know that they were coming anyway and use email or the phone to do the coordination.

Drive up and get the assignment (or "park where you want to") seems to work just fine.

Besides, I really do not want to know who is coming. I sleep better in my blissful ignorance

TIM
__________________
"Flirtin' with Disaster" BBQ Team (RETIRED)
FBA and KCBS Cook and Judge.
Former owner of a WSM, a Smokey Joe, a Charbroil Commercial gasser (junk), the legendary "StudeDera", a Fast Eddy PG500, and Sherman.
Now cooking with a Yoder YS640
Proud Pellet guy cooking on real wood.
The_Kapn is offline   Reply With Quote


Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The things that make a contest great - Cooks packages parrothead Competition BBQ 10 08-09-2006 08:49 PM
The things that make a contest great - The prizes parrothead Competition BBQ 17 08-09-2006 08:23 PM
The things that make a contest great - The prizes parrothead Competition BBQ 17 08-09-2006 08:23 PM

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Loading



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.6.0 Beta 4 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
2003 -2012 © BBQ-Brethren Inc. All rights reserved. All Content and Flaming Pig Logo are registered and protected under U.S and International Copyright and Trademarks. Content Within this Website Is Property of BBQ Brethren Inc. Reproduction or alteration is strictly prohibited.
no new posts