Unexpected offer

Lazy Dawg · 06-12-2006, 09:32 PM

Hello all,
I had a strange thing happen today and I would love to here your thoughts. I have been thinking for a few years now,like most of us, about setting up a roadside pit. I took the trip to Indiana and viewed the BBQ concession trailers for sale at Southern Yankee. I know of some one that has a trailer set up at a permenant site and finally had a chance to meet him today. I figured i would pick his brain about his biz and learn as much as i could for the someday file. To my surprise he basically offered to rent his pit and site to me to run and told me he was too busy with his other biz to run this. He did not mention Numbers but did say just make a fair offer and I am in.I know I would need to set up legit biz and insurace. I am aware of the food handlers permit and so on . The question is should I ?? I guess i did not expect this offer to come up and it has knocked back a bit. Any suggestions or advice would be welcome. Has anyone had this experience? If so how did it work out?

jgh1204 · 06-12-2006, 09:37 PM

I think your family needs to be for this, otherwise you are doomed before you start.

icemn62 · 06-12-2006, 09:40 PM

If you don't have the backing from the family you will fail. Wish i could give you good advice, but I know enough about catering, concession work to be able to tell you I don't know a thang. Whichever you choose, good luck, you know we are pulling for you to do well.

Sledneck · 06-12-2006, 09:44 PM

Do brethren get a discount. I saw one of those trailers this afternoon up the road from me in front of the bbq restaurant under renovation on bellmore ave. It lauras bbq shack

MilitantSquatter · 06-12-2006, 09:45 PM

I know nothing about the finer aspects of catering. Curious where on Long Island this roadside pit exists though...

I agree about making sure you have the green light from family and the desire to make it happen.

My only suggestion would be to scout out this operation at various times... days, evenings, nights, weekends... See how busy it gets and determine if the rent and other operational expenses are worth the time, money and effort on your part. Don't just take his word for how much money he makes...

Good Luck in whatever you decide on...

Sledneck · 06-12-2006, 09:48 PM

Poppa ricks has franchises available. Its written in pencil on a piece of looseleaf paper and scotch taped to his shack

Lazy Dawg · 06-12-2006, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledneck

Do brethren get a discount. I saw one of those trailers this afternoon up the road from me in front of the bbq restaurant under renovation on bellmore ave. It lauras bbq shack

I once spoke to this owner also. I wonder if he and his wife Laura are building this restaurant you are talking about

Sledneck · 06-12-2006, 09:49 PM

Thats what im talking about. They put the trailer in the parking lot in front of the restaurant they are gonna open

Lazy Dawg · 06-12-2006, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledneck

Thats what im talking about. They put the trailer in the parking lot in front of the restaurant they are gonna open

I wish them luck. I Emailed him out of the blue one night and he , Lloyd, sent me his number. Talked about an hour. Real nice guy. From TX. and has a great source of Mesquite.

cmcadams · 06-13-2006, 05:27 AM

Along with the family going along with it, I'd want to see numbers from how he's done there... if he couldn't make it work, what did he do wrong, or was it just location?

kickassbbq · 06-13-2006, 05:37 AM

I have an Ol' partner down South that built his trailer (nice, with a Lang 84) and sets up with other vendors on the weekends. Says after ALL the rigamaroll with insurance, licenses, city space rent and having to be there from morning to late afternoons, he isnt making the money he thought and is spending ALL weekends to make what he does.
So, he is going to simply do what I told him in the beginning years ago.
Just do catering for Private Parties. It's YOUR schedule, a few hours there, charge all you can, give them great Q, have them serve, provide meat ONLY and GET OUT.
There is almost NO expense except your smoker and 300-500 a year from 1 million dollars insurance. Most states have no regulations on this aspect of catering.
I do not want to sit in a stand waiting and hoping people will come by.
Works for me.
Smoke On!!!!!
ed

rookiedad · 06-13-2006, 08:34 PM

is this stand on long island? i have been thinking about opening something like this also but suffolk has some serious laws about cooking on site. food can't go from raw to cooked, just reheated, then there is always the problem of finding a legal spot, but you seem to have got that covered. anyway, my next idea was to find a takeout restaurant, cafe or pizza place for sale and work bbq into the menu and begin to convert it over, but now i believe long island is beginning to get overpopulated with bbq restaurants and places that serve wanna be bbq. i think the success of smokin' Al's in bayshore started it followed by the arrival of famous daves and smokey bones but now they seem to ba all over the place. please let me know where the site is if you decide to get it. good luck.
phil

Sledneck · 06-13-2006, 08:42 PM

Once willie bs opens in july it all over for the rest

BrooklynQ · 06-13-2006, 11:28 PM

Before you make any decision get the family's backing, then get the guy's books. There has to be a reason he's looking to unload.

rbsnwngs · 06-14-2006, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledneck

Once willie bs opens in july it all over for the rest

i do like the way steve is really pushing this

06-12-2006, 09:32 PM	#1
Lazy Dawg On the road to being a farker Join Date: 03-07-06 Location: Sayville NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Unexpected offer Hello all, I had a strange thing happen today and I would love to here your thoughts. I have been thinking for a few years now,like most of us, about setting up a roadside pit. I took the trip to Indiana and viewed the BBQ concession trailers for sale at Southern Yankee. I know of some one that has a trailer set up at a permenant site and finally had a chance to meet him today. I figured i would pick his brain about his biz and learn as much as i could for the someday file. To my surprise he basically offered to rent his pit and site to me to run and told me he was too busy with his other biz to run this. He did not mention Numbers but did say just make a fair offer and I am in.I know I would need to set up legit biz and insurace. I am aware of the food handlers permit and so on . The question is should I ?? I guess i did not expect this offer to come up and it has knocked back a bit. Any suggestions or advice would be welcome. Has anyone had this experience? If so how did it work out? __________________ Fred Lazy Dawg BBQ Team 2 Offset Tin cans 1 Weber smokey Joe When my day comes to meet my maker.... I hope to have spent a few days in paradise before the devil knows I'm there 8)

06-12-2006, 09:37 PM	#2
jgh1204 Babbling Farker Join Date: 12-26-04 Location: Selma, TX(You better slow down when you hit town) Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think your family needs to be for this, otherwise you are doomed before you start. __________________ Wannabe BBQ Illuminati

06-12-2006, 09:40 PM	#3
icemn62 Babbling Farker Join Date: 07-10-04 Location: Los Angeles, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If you don't have the backing from the family you will fail. Wish i could give you good advice, but I know enough about catering, concession work to be able to tell you I don't know a thang. Whichever you choose, good luck, you know we are pulling for you to do well. __________________ Weber Kettle, WSM, CharBroil Gas Grill, George Foreman Grilll I AM LOVING THE SMOKE WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may create the illusion that you are tougher,smarter, faster and better looking than most people.

06-12-2006, 09:44 PM	#4
Sledneck is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-04-05 Location: Wantagh, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Do brethren get a discount. I saw one of those trailers this afternoon up the road from me in front of the bbq restaurant under renovation on bellmore ave. It lauras bbq shack __________________ BBQ Illuminati Blog Disclaimer: The poster does not take any responsibility for any bad feelings or sense of exclusion that the reader of this post may have-whether real or imagined. Reading threads poses inherent risks. The poster of this thread would like to also remind readers to make sure they have a functional sense of humor before they visit any discussion board.

06-12-2006, 09:45 PM	#5
MilitantSquatter Moderator Join Date: 09-17-05 Location: soon to be in Mooresville, NC Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I know nothing about the finer aspects of catering. Curious where on Long Island this roadside pit exists though... I agree about making sure you have the green light from family and the desire to make it happen. My only suggestion would be to scout out this operation at various times... days, evenings, nights, weekends... See how busy it gets and determine if the rent and other operational expenses are worth the time, money and effort on your part. Don't just take his word for how much money he makes... Good Luck in whatever you decide on... __________________ Vinny 22" WSM & Kettle Former owner: Jambo, Klose BYC, Med. Spicewine, Pitts & Spitts, XL & (2) Med. BGE's, (2) 18" WSM's

06-12-2006, 09:48 PM	#6
Sledneck is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-04-05 Location: Wantagh, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Poppa ricks has franchises available. Its written in pencil on a piece of looseleaf paper and scotch taped to his shack __________________ BBQ Illuminati Blog Disclaimer: The poster does not take any responsibility for any bad feelings or sense of exclusion that the reader of this post may have-whether real or imagined. Reading threads poses inherent risks. The poster of this thread would like to also remind readers to make sure they have a functional sense of humor before they visit any discussion board.

06-12-2006, 09:49 PM	#8
Sledneck is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-04-05 Location: Wantagh, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thats what im talking about. They put the trailer in the parking lot in front of the restaurant they are gonna open __________________ BBQ Illuminati Blog Disclaimer: The poster does not take any responsibility for any bad feelings or sense of exclusion that the reader of this post may have-whether real or imagined. Reading threads poses inherent risks. The poster of this thread would like to also remind readers to make sure they have a functional sense of humor before they visit any discussion board.

06-13-2006, 05:27 AM	#10
cmcadams Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 02-15-06 Location: Waynesville, Ohio Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Along with the family going along with it, I'd want to see numbers from how he's done there... if he couldn't make it work, what did he do wrong, or was it just location? __________________ Curt McAdams Livefire Blog Livefire Whisky CBJ, some comps, a few awards, Certified Artisan Steak Taster. XL Big Green Egg, Bubba Keg Convection Grill, Weber Kettle, Charbroil Infrared and mad livefire cooking skillz! :)

06-13-2006, 05:37 AM	#11
kickassbbq is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 10-20-05 Location: mn Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have an Ol' partner down South that built his trailer (nice, with a Lang 84) and sets up with other vendors on the weekends. Says after ALL the rigamaroll with insurance, licenses, city space rent and having to be there from morning to late afternoons, he isnt making the money he thought and is spending ALL weekends to make what he does. So, he is going to simply do what I told him in the beginning years ago. Just do catering for Private Parties. It's YOUR schedule, a few hours there, charge all you can, give them great Q, have them serve, provide meat ONLY and GET OUT. There is almost NO expense except your smoker and 300-500 a year from 1 million dollars insurance. Most states have no regulations on this aspect of catering. I do not want to sit in a stand waiting and hoping people will come by. Works for me. Smoke On!!!!! ed __________________ Smoke On!!!!!! www.kickassbbq.com

06-13-2006, 08:34 PM	#12
rookiedad is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-21-05 Location: patchogue, n.y. Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	is this stand on long island? i have been thinking about opening something like this also but suffolk has some serious laws about cooking on site. food can't go from raw to cooked, just reheated, then there is always the problem of finding a legal spot, but you seem to have got that covered. anyway, my next idea was to find a takeout restaurant, cafe or pizza place for sale and work bbq into the menu and begin to convert it over, but now i believe long island is beginning to get overpopulated with bbq restaurants and places that serve wanna be bbq. i think the success of smokin' Al's in bayshore started it followed by the arrival of famous daves and smokey bones but now they seem to ba all over the place. please let me know where the site is if you decide to get it. good luck. phil

06-13-2006, 08:42 PM	#13
Sledneck is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-04-05 Location: Wantagh, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Once willie bs opens in july it all over for the rest __________________ BBQ Illuminati Blog Disclaimer: The poster does not take any responsibility for any bad feelings or sense of exclusion that the reader of this post may have-whether real or imagined. Reading threads poses inherent risks. The poster of this thread would like to also remind readers to make sure they have a functional sense of humor before they visit any discussion board.

06-13-2006, 11:28 PM	#14
BrooklynQ Banned Join Date: 07-18-04 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Before you make any decision get the family's backing, then get the guy's books. There has to be a reason he's looking to unload.

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