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Old 02-16-2014, 09:01 AM   #1
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Default Double or triple walled UDS idea

I thought of this laying awake in bed last night. I have 2 barrels one open top and one closed top sitting in my driveway. The closed top is 1/4" smaller diameter. The rings on each barrel appear to be identical height/spacing. On the drum I got the bottom lip is keeping it from fitting down inside so I bet if a person wanted to remove the top and bottom lip the skin would fit right inside the other drum. You could even do this another time for 3 layers by slitting the 3rd skin lengthwise as well. Then you could silicone the gaps and sharp edges. I am not sure whether it would be worth trying or not but interesting concept for a thicker walled smoker in a UDS. Not sure whether I will try it or not but I can get these closed top drums for 5 bucks all day so....hmmmm I wonder how much difference that would make in cold weather? Just trying to think of ideas for all those people that are wrapping blankets around their smoker ect.
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:05 AM   #2
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I would do the double wall and fill the air gap with insulation. Would be a very efficient UDS. Would just have to figure out air intake but I'm sure its noting some steel pipe and a big drill bit couldn't fix.
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:07 AM   #3
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I would do the double wall and fill the air gap with insulation. Would be a very efficient UDS. Would just have to figure out air intake but I'm sure its noting some steel pipe and a big drill bit couldn't fix.
Well you couldn't go too thick on insualtion or the 22.5 grate would not fit. I am thinking if you drilled holes through both skins the close nipples would thread through both. I don't think there would be an issue building it like normal. Your not talking several inches of insulation. What kind of insulation could you use?
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Old 02-16-2014, 09:09 AM   #4
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How about a simple 23 dollar insulation sleeve that just slides over the drum? My drum gets over 400* in the winter
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I've talked to Fwismoker about his insulation and I think it is a good idea, and far easier. You can go to the hardware store and buy some of this Reflectix insulation with foil on both sides and do a wrap around your drum and tape it up with the foil tape made for insulation. It would work great for a UDS since it has very few things on the side of the drum that you would need to cut out holes in the insulation for.
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I've talked to Fwismoker about his insulation and I think it is a good idea, and far easier. You can go to the hardware store and buy some of this Reflectix insulation with foil on both sides and do a wrap around your drum and tape it up with the foil tape made for insulation. It would work great for a UDS since it has very few things on the side of the drum that you would need to cut out holes in the insulation for.

I think those are all good ideas. Heck I have never smoke in sub zero weather yet. I have just been reading all the posts about people that have. I think it would be easier to build a standard UDS (which I will probably do) and use a blanket of some sort. But this idea was in my head and I thought I would share it. Someone might find a use for it. What I was originally going to do was find an old well water pressure tank or something else and build a UDS out of a thick walled tube but I couldn't find anything that didn't weigh 200 lbs or better and I wanted portable. Just more ideas people lol.
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It sounds great in theory but I do not see the need. I've used a drum all winter, even when it has been in the single digits, -15 w the wind chill. Does it use a little more fuel? Yes. What cooker doesn't when it is cold out.
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It sounds great in theory but I do not see the need. I've used a drum all winter, even when it has been in the single digits, -15 w the wind chill. Does it use a little more fuel? Yes. What cooker doesn't when it is cold out.
I have smoked in the winter but its always been around 10-20 degrees ect. I have seen posts recently where people were smoking in below zero temps and had blankets wrapped around them.
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It sounds great in theory but I do not see the need. I've used a drum all winter, even when it has been in the single digits, -15 w the wind chill. Does it use a little more fuel? Yes. What cooker doesn't when it is cold out.
Neat idea but agree with above post. Hell I'm still amazed after years of using my drum how well it does in nasty cold conditions. Lady friend gets tired of me talking about how great it is lol.
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IMO it's about saving retaining heat and getting the hottest possible...mostly because i like high heat chicken.

Winter weather aside it's just a good wind block.



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Neat idea but agree with above post. Hell I'm still amazed after years of using my drum how well it does in nasty cold conditions. Lady friend gets tired of me talking about how great it is lol.

The drum or what?
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A fellar or 2 have done a 55 in a 85 build on here......
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IMO it's about saving retaining heat and getting the hottest possible...mostly because i like high heat chicken.

Winter weather aside it's just a good wind block.



This stuff really works great! I just picked some up last week to give it a try....and WOW. This stuff is extremely light and thin but it keeps the wind off. There was no problem with the wind blowing the Reflectix around. The price (less than $25 with enough for both my mini wsm and UDS) can't be beat and it is very easy to use. (Wrapping a welding blanket around just sounded like a pain to do each time.)
Thanks Fwismoker for introducing us to Reflectix!
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This stuff really works great! I just picked some up last week to give it a try....and WOW. This stuff is extremely light and thin but it keeps the wind off. There was no problem with the wind blowing the Reflectix around. The price (less than $25 with enough for both my mini wsm and UDS) can't be beat and it is very easy to use. (Wrapping a welding blanket around just sounded like a pain to do each time.)
Thanks Fwismoker for introducing us to Reflectix!
Glad it worked good for you. One roll can go a long way...did 3 smokers with it, can't beat it.
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Can you buy that stuff at any home improvement store?
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