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Unread 01-16-2014, 09:39 PM   #1
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Default What dish detergent do you use?

For those in restaurants or other commercial setting, what dishwashing soap do you use?

In the restaurant I've been using this pink stuff from the local restaurant supply, but it sucks. It doesn't matter how much or how little you use, but everything still feels a little greasy after being washed. It's like the soap isn't breaking down the oils or something.

So I want to try something else. Is there a certain brand you use that works well?
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I have been using Dawn Professional from Sam's. It runs about $.09/oz. It is cheaper than the Dawn I get from Rienhart. It really works well. Another thing about the greasy feeling on the dishes is check your sanitizer. Make we found if the water is not warm enough then it would leave a film.
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Good call on the sanitizer. Tomorrow I'll do a comparison with a bleach solution and see if there's a difference. And I'm also going to Sam's tomorrow so I'll grab some dawn. That's what I use at home and know it works great, so if the price is right, that's good enough for me.
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What dish machine are you using? They should supply you with the proper soap?
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What dish machine are you using? They should supply you with the proper soap?
I think he is like me and hand washing things right now.
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Might as we'll ask here, if you have a commercial machine, what do you use? I have this insinger gs302 sitting here for 5 years that has never been used but I would love to start. I have a RD membership but clueless on what to use.
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Have you checked with your local restaurant supply store. They would be able to tell you what you need. The Tech Manual doesn't recommend anything.

http://www.insingermachine.com/pdf/manuals/GS302%20TechManual.pdf

The best brand out there for commercial machines is Eco-Labs.
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A few thoughts.

1) Your water is not hot enough. Almost all cooking greases with melt at 120F. Water temp below this and the grease will remain adhered to the item being washed. All three compartments should be maintained at 120F or more, especially your rinse compartment.

2) Soap to water ratio too low. You should have a HUGE pile of soap bubbles in your water. If you find it hard to easily rinse off all of the soap, then you have enough. If it rinses off really quick and easy, you don't have enough soap in there.

3) Change your water frequently. Our general rule is to replace water after three sink loads. (recycle all three compartments)

4) Ensure that your sink interior surfaces (all three compartments are clean and clear of oil/grease). It doesn't take much accumulation on the inside surfaces to coat your "clean" utensils, etc. We scrub all three compartments with hot water and soap between each time we cycle our wash setup.

5) If you are using bleach in your sanitizing compartment be aware that high levels of bleach will leave a "greasy feel" to surfaces. Minimum 50 ppm, maximum 100ppm, we still use bleach as sanitizer although Quaternary Ammonium is the preferred sanitizer now. Some still use bleach b/c of lower cost and the limitations of Quat's effectiveness under certain circumstances.

We had a similar issue early on in our business and increasing amt of soap, changing out water frequently with a good wash down of the interiors and using test strips to ensure the correct amount of bleach was being used solved it for us.

p.s. Quat is know to leave a "barrier film" on surfaces.
p.p.s.s. Try adding vinegar to your rinse water to help ensure that no film transfers to your sanitizer compartment.
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Thanks everyone. I've done two washes today playing with a few things and seemed to get it nailed down. Hotter water certainly helped, and bleach also seemed to work better.
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