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Unread 11-24-2013, 04:50 PM   #1
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My mother in law bought me some fresh vanilla from a trusted source that she has been purchasing from for years. well, something happened to this batch. so far, all of them have gone and done something strange. Once opened, if you leav in fridge, it obtains this silky thread like substance all the way through it. if you dont open it, nothing happens.

check it out. it is supposed to be clear. its real vanilla. also manufacture wont help out because they say we are not supposed to put it in fridge yet we have been doing it for years....

thanks. any ideas what is happening? i still say it is safe, haha

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I'm familiar with vanilla beans or extract. I don't know what real vanilla you speak of.
You're making me google it.
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Quick Google search says to never store real vanilla extract or beans in fridge or freezer. It will result in mold growth. Info from amadeusvanillabeans.com
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mold? even with the alcohol? the ingredients say it is mostly water, alcohol,vanillin

we have always stored it in fridge with no issues. first time this has happened. i wonder if it is mold, but i question because of the alcohol..

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real vanilla as in alcohol, water and vanillin. i guess it is called extract. which i thought was imitation vanilla but i am incorrect. hahaha.
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There's imitation vanilla, and real vanilla extract. I've always used the real vanilla extract, and always kept it in a cabinet away from heat. Never had a problem.
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I am making a big batch of vanilla extract right now. Just split vanilla beans and vodka. It takes a couple of months. I never refrigerate it. Why? It doesn't need to be refrigerated.

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mold? even with the alcohol? the ingredients say it is mostly water, alcohol,vanillin

we have always stored it in fridge with no issues. first time this has happened. i wonder if it is mold, but i question because of the alcohol..

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You'd be surprised, there are forms of mold and algae that grow in aircraft fuel tanks when filled with jet fuel. These have to be cleaned and purged to prevent fuel flow impediment for obvious reasons.

Also remember alcohol comes from fermenting, and alcohol can turn to vinegar. With wine a mold clump called a "mother" breaks the alcohol down into acidic acid which is vinegar.... Then it is diluted to 5% strength for household use.

I have even read that in Yellowstone National Park there is algae that grows in the highly acidic boiling waters of the hot springs and geysers.
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Yep, only make my own with Vodka, NEVER put in the fridge.
It WILL and DOES mold.

Don't buy the "Good stuff" make it yourself..
Just order some of the best bean on the internet, then slice them open and toss into top shelf Vodka. 2 months later you have the BEST stuff you can get!!!
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You'd be surprised, there are forms of mold and algae that grow in aircraft fuel tanks when filled with jet fuel. These have to be cleaned and purged to prevent fuel flow impediment for obvious reasons.

Also remember alcohol comes from fermenting, and alcohol can turn to vinegar. With wine a mold clump called a "mother" breaks the alcohol down into acidic acid which is vinegar.... Then it is diluted to 5% strength for household use.

I have even read that in Yellowstone National Park there is algae that grows in the highly acidic boiling waters of the hot springs and geysers.
im just surprised that it could be mold. haha. ill have to see if it dissolves when it gets close to room temp. I thought it could be the mother and what not but i have no idea if i should use it....
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Yep, only make my own with Vodka, NEVER put in the fridge.
It WILL and DOES mold.

Don't buy the "Good stuff" make it yourself..
Just order some of the best bean on the internet, then slice them open and toss into top shelf Vodka. 2 months later you have the BEST stuff you can get!!!
why does the cold cause mold? thats what interests me. Usually we put things in the fridge to preserve them and alcohol goes in the fridge to. so why does it mess things up this time? do you happen to know the science or theory behind it?

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That is mold.

Something innoculated it and it is now growing. There is alcohol, but it might not be enough to inhibit mold. Remember that there are many molds, some, for instance, turn wine to vinegar. And there is alcohol in wine.
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That is mold.

Something innoculated it and it is now growing. There is alcohol, but it might not be enough to inhibit mold. Remember that there are many molds, some, for instance, turn wine to vinegar. And there is alcohol in wine.
AWESOME!!!! because all 8 bottles did this only and only after we opened it and 4 of the bottles were 75 miles away but similar elevation.

we called manufacture a second time and they have never had this happen. they say it may be contaminated.

so going to take this to chem lab. to look at it and see what kind of mold it is and what it is doing. haha
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I have a friend in Costa Rica that grows the orchid commercially.He showed me around on one visit.Cool to see the transformation from flower to pod and drying.
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