Chicken in comp's after the bird flu

Yakfishingfool · 04-07-2006, 06:40 PM

Hi everyone. As you know I'm a new judge but also a medical professional and was wondering if there is any scuttle butt about the use of chicken in the competition arena after the bird flu hits.

My hospital has taken a census of all the employees and their families for immunization after the first arrival. This is going to be a serious thing, the possibility of mass 2 week isolations of whole parts of the country is a real possibility. It will happen this year, the infection of the US, unsure how many and where will be affected.

the reason the virus is so virulent is that it is a virus. Bacteria reproduce by bringing their own house (cell) with them. viruses inhabit a host and use the host cells to mutate. When it passes on to the next person and then reinfects the orginal host, the body doesnt recognize it because it's in the new host cell, and thus differnt than originally seen. Also the virus is able to mutate the cells aggressivley. Think AIDS. Tough to treat

So, we know that taking chicken past 165 should, and I repeat should, render the chicken safe to eat. Last chicken I had was...uhhhh....165???? Not sure I'm ready to take that chance. What say all of you? Scott

Sawdustguy · 04-07-2006, 08:21 PM

I have heard that the KCBS is considering pulling chicken from the four required meats and adding sausage once the Bird Flu shows up.

Pork Avenue BBQ · 04-07-2006, 08:55 PM

That will solve the chicken skin problem , does anyone have a good sausage injection to share
Allways planning
Walt

Yakfishingfool · 04-07-2006, 10:03 PM

man, sausage coud be really great. Hows about fish maybe?

Jeff_in_KC · 04-07-2006, 10:07 PM

Do we REALLY know for sure this will be as bad as the Doomsday people out there are telling us? I mean seriously... what are the odds things get as bad as Scott mentioned? I'm not saying Yak is one of the Doomsday folks... just that the "experts" you see on the news and read about in the paper are preaching a lot of doom and gloom lately.

I guess for me, I'll stock up on chicken now every chance I get... just in case.

But I think KCBS should switch to squirrel instead of sausage.

Hawgsnheifers · 04-07-2006, 10:13 PM

Ohh yumm. Rocky on a stick. What a carnival treat...

Jeff_in_KC · 04-07-2006, 10:31 PM

Todd, the dude in your avatar looks like the perfect guy to judge the squirrel category!

Hawgsnheifers · 04-07-2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff_in_KC

Todd, the dude in your avatar looks like the perfect guy to judge the squirrel category!

Bro. Where's the love? That's me at our last family reunion. I lost my teeth in the mud pit, but we found them a little later in my Aunt Sharonjean's bra.

kcquer · 04-07-2006, 11:26 PM

Quote:

my Aunt Sharonjean

So you're Roy D's nephew, well knock a pop knot on my head big enough to tie off a boat anchor!!

Hawgsnheifers · 04-07-2006, 11:32 PM

How big a ole boy are ya?

Jeff_in_KC · 04-07-2006, 11:59 PM

On second thought, sausage could be cool! Fatties go nation wide?! Can you imagine turning in an armadillo egg as a KCBS category entry?

Yakfishingfool · 04-08-2006, 07:08 AM

It's not a doomsady scenario. I too thik everything the media get's it;s hands on get's way overplayed. However, this probably will show up this year. what hppened when mad cow disease reared it;s head? this may be a bit worse. I was simply asking if, as a judge, that pinkish chicen rolls through. How fast are you going to down it? the reason this country has done so well with so many illness's is that we believe, typically, in hygeine and have laws to protect us.

want to see what ahppen when the that fails. go read about whooping cough and it's major resurgence. Scott

Sawdustguy · 04-08-2006, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff_in_KC

Do we REALLY know for sure this will be as bad as the Doomsday people out there are telling us? I mean seriously... what are the odds things get as bad as Scott mentioned? I'm not saying Yak is one of the Doomsday folks... just that the "experts" you see on the news and read about in the paper are preaching a lot of doom and gloom lately.

I guess for me, I'll stock up on chicken now every chance I get... just in case.

But I think KCBS should switch to squirrel instead of sausage.

Jeff,

It's a virus. You can't take a antibiotic for a virus. If I am not mistaken you must be vaccinated to prevent a virus. I heard that this virus mutates so a vaccination is hard to find. It is serious but not the end of the world as we know it.

kcquer · 04-08-2006, 10:20 AM

The KCBS taking some time away from the boiled in sauce then grilled thigh catagory would be nothing but a good thing, at least sausage would be Q'd and not grilled.
Now, if they'd just get rid of that nasty pork shoulder catagory, there would be reason to be excited about doing a contest.

Yakfishingfool · 04-08-2006, 01:08 PM

SDG, you're right, it is a virus. A vaccination woul dbe required but it would not account for mutation. While I don;t think we would ever see, in this country at least, the 50% kill rate, it could happen easily in underserved areas. A new plague. Would help population spikes. 50-100 million less people....hmmmm.......S

04-07-2006, 06:40 PM	#1
Yakfishingfool Babbling Farker Join Date: 10-01-05 Location: Shokan, New York Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Chicken in comp's after the bird flu Hi everyone. As you know I'm a new judge but also a medical professional and was wondering if there is any scuttle butt about the use of chicken in the competition arena after the bird flu hits. My hospital has taken a census of all the employees and their families for immunization after the first arrival. This is going to be a serious thing, the possibility of mass 2 week isolations of whole parts of the country is a real possibility. It will happen this year, the infection of the US, unsure how many and where will be affected. the reason the virus is so virulent is that it is a virus. Bacteria reproduce by bringing their own house (cell) with them. viruses inhabit a host and use the host cells to mutate. When it passes on to the next person and then reinfects the orginal host, the body doesnt recognize it because it's in the new host cell, and thus differnt than originally seen. Also the virus is able to mutate the cells aggressivley. Think AIDS. Tough to treat So, we know that taking chicken past 165 should, and I repeat should, render the chicken safe to eat. Last chicken I had was...uhhhh....165???? Not sure I'm ready to take that chance. What say all of you? Scott __________________ Oh It'z BBQ! 6 Kayaks(tarpon 160i, 2 tarpon 120's, a hobie outback, hobie tandem, and a Kaskazi Dorado) 1 Weber Gold Series Grill 1 Spicewine Large on a trailer 1 WSM 1 Smokey Joe Platinum 1 XL Big Green Egg KCBS Certified Judge #9079

04-07-2006, 08:21 PM	#2
Sawdustguy Babbling Farker Join Date: 09-14-05 Location: Manorville, Long Island Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have heard that the KCBS is considering pulling chicken from the four required meats and adding sausage once the Bird Flu shows up. __________________ Guy (Brewmaster and Pitmaster) BBQ Team: *Two Fat Polocks BBQ Team* Brewery: Black Dog Brewery BBQ Equipment: "Sam I Am": XL Big Green Egg "Barbra Q": Lang 84 Deluxe "R2 and D2": Twin 22" Weber Smokey Mountains Brewery: Custom Made Automated Souped Up Sabco

04-07-2006, 10:03 PM	#4
Yakfishingfool Babbling Farker Join Date: 10-01-05 Location: Shokan, New York Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	man, sausage coud be really great. Hows about fish maybe? __________________ Oh It'z BBQ! 6 Kayaks(tarpon 160i, 2 tarpon 120's, a hobie outback, hobie tandem, and a Kaskazi Dorado) 1 Weber Gold Series Grill 1 Spicewine Large on a trailer 1 WSM 1 Smokey Joe Platinum 1 XL Big Green Egg KCBS Certified Judge #9079

04-07-2006, 10:07 PM	#5
Jeff_in_KC somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-04-05 Location: Pleasant Hill, MO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Do we REALLY know for sure this will be as bad as the Doomsday people out there are telling us? I mean seriously... what are the odds things get as bad as Scott mentioned? I'm not saying Yak is one of the Doomsday folks... just that the "experts" you see on the news and read about in the paper are preaching a lot of doom and gloom lately. I guess for me, I'll stock up on chicken now every chance I get... just in case. But I think KCBS should switch to squirrel instead of sausage. __________________ Big Creek BBQ Competition Team KCBS Member and CBJ #14287 Contest Organizer - Smokin' on Big Creek Co-Founder and Executive Director Operation BBQ Relief, Inc. Visit us at Operation BBQ Relief dot org

04-07-2006, 10:13 PM	#6
Hawgsnheifers Take a breath! Join Date: 01-26-06 Location: Topeka, Kansas Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ohh yumm. Rocky on a stick. What a carnival treat... __________________ HawgsnHeifers Smoke Shack BBQ 18.5 WSM with BBQ Guru Competition MOD Bandera with Spicewine Firebox MOD (Lives at Chiefs now) Silver Smoker with "leak like a Sive" MOD Brinkman Gourmet with "Critter Infestation" MOD Jenn-Air 4 Burner Gas Passer with "Lazy" MOD "Life is hard. It's harder when your stupid."

04-07-2006, 08:55 PM	#3
Pork Avenue BBQ Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 03-15-06 Location: Dothan Alabama Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That will solve the chicken skin problem , does anyone have a good sausage injection to share Allways planning Walt

04-07-2006, 10:31 PM	#7
Jeff_in_KC somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-04-05 Location: Pleasant Hill, MO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Todd, the dude in your avatar looks like the perfect guy to judge the squirrel category! __________________ Big Creek BBQ Competition Team KCBS Member and CBJ #14287 Contest Organizer - Smokin' on Big Creek Co-Founder and Executive Director Operation BBQ Relief, Inc. Visit us at Operation BBQ Relief dot org

04-07-2006, 11:32 PM	#10
Hawgsnheifers Take a breath! Join Date: 01-26-06 Location: Topeka, Kansas Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	How big a ole boy are ya? __________________ HawgsnHeifers Smoke Shack BBQ 18.5 WSM with BBQ Guru Competition MOD Bandera with Spicewine Firebox MOD (Lives at Chiefs now) Silver Smoker with "leak like a Sive" MOD Brinkman Gourmet with "Critter Infestation" MOD Jenn-Air 4 Burner Gas Passer with "Lazy" MOD "Life is hard. It's harder when your stupid."

04-07-2006, 11:59 PM	#11
Jeff_in_KC somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-04-05 Location: Pleasant Hill, MO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	On second thought, sausage could be cool! Fatties go nation wide?! Can you imagine turning in an armadillo egg as a KCBS category entry? __________________ Big Creek BBQ Competition Team KCBS Member and CBJ #14287 Contest Organizer - Smokin' on Big Creek Co-Founder and Executive Director Operation BBQ Relief, Inc. Visit us at Operation BBQ Relief dot org

04-08-2006, 07:08 AM	#12
Yakfishingfool Babbling Farker Join Date: 10-01-05 Location: Shokan, New York Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's not a doomsady scenario. I too thik everything the media get's it;s hands on get's way overplayed. However, this probably will show up this year. what hppened when mad cow disease reared it;s head? this may be a bit worse. I was simply asking if, as a judge, that pinkish chicen rolls through. How fast are you going to down it? the reason this country has done so well with so many illness's is that we believe, typically, in hygeine and have laws to protect us. want to see what ahppen when the that fails. go read about whooping cough and it's major resurgence. Scott __________________ Oh It'z BBQ! 6 Kayaks(tarpon 160i, 2 tarpon 120's, a hobie outback, hobie tandem, and a Kaskazi Dorado) 1 Weber Gold Series Grill 1 Spicewine Large on a trailer 1 WSM 1 Smokey Joe Platinum 1 XL Big Green Egg KCBS Certified Judge #9079

04-08-2006, 10:20 AM	#14
kcquer Lives in Spirit Join Date: 02-17-04 Location: Wherever there's Sweet Blue Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The KCBS taking some time away from the boiled in sauce then grilled thigh catagory would be nothing but a good thing, at least sausage would be Q'd and not grilled. Now, if they'd just get rid of that nasty pork shoulder catagory, there would be reason to be excited about doing a contest.

04-08-2006, 01:08 PM	#15
Yakfishingfool Babbling Farker Join Date: 10-01-05 Location: Shokan, New York Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SDG, you're right, it is a virus. A vaccination woul dbe required but it would not account for mutation. While I don;t think we would ever see, in this country at least, the 50% kill rate, it could happen easily in underserved areas. A new plague. Would help population spikes. 50-100 million less people....hmmmm.......S __________________ Oh It'z BBQ! 6 Kayaks(tarpon 160i, 2 tarpon 120's, a hobie outback, hobie tandem, and a Kaskazi Dorado) 1 Weber Gold Series Grill 1 Spicewine Large on a trailer 1 WSM 1 Smokey Joe Platinum 1 XL Big Green Egg KCBS Certified Judge #9079

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