A competition question. - Page 2

BigBellyBBQ · 07-25-2013, 02:18 AM

if you have 3 people then you can create three teams, 3 seperate cooking areas, 3 different cookers...

Gowan · 07-25-2013, 04:32 AM

Try this question then:

Team A has four guys.
Team B is a solo cook.
At a contest, A & B are set up next to each other.

If one of the guys from Team A runs the boxes for Team B to help him out, is that a rules violation?

Nordy · 07-25-2013, 08:58 AM

I think the rule is clear.

Two teams can't have the same "chicken guy" cooking chicken at a given contest... However the "chicken guy" can cook for one team one weekend and a different team the next...

Pelkster · 07-25-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CivilWarBBQ

Try this question then:

Team A has four guys.
Team B is a solo cook.
At a contest, A & B are set up next to each other.

If one of the guys from Team A runs the boxes for Team B to help him out, is that a rules violation?

I've been at comps where this happens. My team mates have volunteered, but always turned down. Running boxes, in my humble opinion, is not being an assistant cook.

As far as being the head guy of one team and an assistant on another at the same comp, I feel that is a violation of the rules. Not to mention, how could you find time to do your own cook AND help out with someone elses? I have barely enough time for my own, and that is with a team of 2 or 3 experienced guys.

Bentley · 07-25-2013, 11:13 AM

I am not sure that this matters, but these would be two separate teams at two distinct sites and distinct units for cooking at the contest.

But it is not allowed, so I wont be trying it. I have not been looking for a way to circumvent the rules, just trying to figure out why the rule is in effect. kenthanson response is as plausible explanation as I have seen and short an explanation from KCBS is as close as I may get.

Vince RnQ · 07-25-2013, 02:40 PM

Try sending an e-mail to Jeff Stith. He's the Chair of the KCBS Rules Committee. Let him find the reason for the rule and report back to you.

Bentley · 07-25-2013, 03:02 PM

Just did...will see what the response is.

gettinbasted · 07-25-2013, 03:36 PM

So you are wanting to help another team beat your own team? Am I missing something?

Stacking has to be the answer, otherwise my wife could enter as the head cook of her own team, we could both help each other, and double our chances of finishing DAL!

Bentley · 07-25-2013, 03:55 PM

As someone said earlier, the short answer is I cook on more then one team...And it so happens that both of these teams would be at one specific contest each year.

gettinbasted · 07-25-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bentley

As someone said earlier, the short answer is I cook on more then one team...And it so happens that both of these teams would be at one specific contest each year.

I was just giving you a hard time. I know several people this could affect. I would think it would come into play with someone wanting to assist multiple teams from time to time.

Cayman1 · 07-25-2013, 06:34 PM

Brad, sounds like we might need a long distance runner this weekend. If we had one we could share him, shouldn't be a rules problem. Not sure my teammate can make 4 trips that far, we're old!

gettinbasted · 07-25-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cayman1

Brad, sounds like we might need a long distance runner this weekend. If we had one we could share him, shouldn't be a rules problem. Not sure my teammate can make 4 trips that far, we're old!

I will jog them both over! I am in mid season BBQ shape!

Bentley · 07-27-2013, 07:51 PM

No response to my email yet...

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Originally Posted by Vince RnQ

Try sending an e-mail to Jeff Stith. He's the Chair of the KCBS Rules Committee. Let him find the reason for the rule and report back to you.

Vince RnQ · 07-29-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bentley

No response to my email yet...

He's on Facebook too.

BMerrill · 08-02-2013, 10:05 AM

@ Bentley, I'll be cooking at that same contest, so it could be 3 teams at the same time. .... but you have to cook the chicken....

07-25-2013, 02:18 AM	#16
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07-25-2013, 11:13 AM	#20
Bentley Babbling Farker Join Date: 03-14-07 Location: Culpeper, Virginia	I am not sure that this matters, but these would be two separate teams at two distinct sites and distinct units for cooking at the contest. But it is not allowed, so I wont be trying it. I have not been looking for a way to circumvent the rules, just trying to figure out why the rule is in effect. kenthanson response is as plausible explanation as I have seen and short an explanation from KCBS is as close as I may get. __________________ Certified Master Judge #5382 What is best in life? "To crush your BBQ opponents, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women." Last edited by Bentley; 07-25-2013 at 03:01 PM..

07-25-2013, 02:40 PM	#21
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07-25-2013, 03:02 PM	#22
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07-25-2013, 03:36 PM	#23
gettinbasted is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 09-14-12 Location: Springfield, MO	So you are wanting to help another team beat your own team? Am I missing something? Stacking has to be the answer, otherwise my wife could enter as the head cook of her own team, we could both help each other, and double our chances of finishing DAL! __________________ Gateway Drums - THE Insane Can Posse - gettinbasted.com

07-25-2013, 04:32 AM	#17
Gowan is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 08-08-07 Location: Cartersville, GA	Try this question then: Team A has four guys. Team B is a solo cook. At a contest, A & B are set up next to each other. If one of the guys from Team A runs the boxes for Team B to help him out, is that a rules violation?

07-25-2013, 08:58 AM	#18
Nordy On the road to being a farker Join Date: 01-16-11 Location: Ponca City, OK	I think the rule is clear. Two teams can't have the same "chicken guy" cooking chicken at a given contest... However the "chicken guy" can cook for one team one weekend and a different team the next...

07-25-2013, 03:55 PM	#24
Bentley Babbling Farker Join Date: 03-14-07 Location: Culpeper, Virginia	As someone said earlier, the short answer is I cook on more then one team...And it so happens that both of these teams would be at one specific contest each year. __________________ Certified Master Judge #5382 What is best in life? "To crush your BBQ opponents, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

07-25-2013, 06:34 PM	#26
Cayman1 is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-20-12 Location: Springfield, MO	Brad, sounds like we might need a long distance runner this weekend. If we had one we could share him, shouldn't be a rules problem. Not sure my teammate can make 4 trips that far, we're old! __________________ Smooth Smoke BBQ Team, KCBS CBJ, porch mounted Jambo.

08-02-2013, 10:05 AM	#30
BMerrill Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 02-17-09 Location: Ayden, NC	@ Bentley, I'll be cooking at that same contest, so it could be 3 teams at the same time. .... but you have to cook the chicken....