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Unread 07-22-2013, 04:54 PM   #1
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Default Rancher's Reserve Beef Cup

My searches don't bring up very much 'current' talk about the RR beef cup. Doing the top sirloin for the first time in a couple weeks at Bel Air, MD. From the few posts I did see the guidance for boxing comes from the organizer and can vary from comp to comp. Is this true? Any advice at all on what to expect for the Rancher's Reserve? A little info for planning purposes would be appreciated!
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Rules aren't very clear. We did it at St Charles, and there were lots of questions. Bottom line there was, kcbs style box, only kcbs approved garnish. Sauce must use same rules as kcbs...no pooling or containers.
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Those have been the instructions given to the 3 contests out west as well.
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The real lack of communication seems to be what can, or can't, go in the box. Last time we did an RR was in Westmont 2 or 3 years ago. Category was basically wide open, except for the cut of meat you used. At that particular comp, I think a burrito won.

This time there was a LOT of confusion about what could you or couldn't you put in a box. Could you do chicken fried steak? could you include mashed potatoes? Risotto?

I really don't care what they want to allow or disallow, but it should have been made MUCH clearer, IMHO
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The real lack of communication seems to be what can, or can't, go in the box. Last time we did an RR was in Westmont 2 or 3 years ago. Category was basically wide open, except for the cut of meat you used. At that particular comp, I think a burrito won.

This time there was a LOT of confusion about what could you or couldn't you put in a box. Could you do chicken fried steak? could you include mashed potatoes? Risotto?

I really don't care what they want to allow or disallow, but it should have been made MUCH clearer, IMHO
In the one contest that we did the RR category, the KCBS reps made it very clear what was and was not allowed in the box. Basically, they summed it up by saying, "think 'brisket' when turning in your RR box."
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We won the ranchers reserve with a brisket, I thought it was part of the KCBS brisket category, just had to use their brisket.
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RR doesn't really make the rules. I have found that the organizers wait for them and it ends up being the organizer that makes the rules. I do believe that they want folks to think outside the box and be creative. A grilled piece of meat won't win it.
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We won the ranchers reserve with a brisket, I thought it was part of the KCBS brisket category, just had to use their brisket.
This year? They did a brisket comp a few years ago
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I did ranchers reserve at washington dc, the came around and gave out briskets. I believe they do it there every year
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They did that a few years ago at Westmont. They were, as I recall, just Excel brand packers, not sure if they were choice or select. I believe ours became sausage and hamburger
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I did ranchers reserve at washington dc, the came around and gave out briskets. I believe they do it there every year
Yeah, this year we are doing Bel Air, MD in a couple weeks and it is top sirloin. No other guidance!
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Yeah, this year we are doing Bel Air, MD in a couple weeks and it is top sirloin. No other guidance!
I am thinking of taking my grinder and comming up with something on the fly.
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Yeah, this year we are doing Bel Air, MD in a couple weeks and it is top sirloin. No other guidance!
I signed up for it in Bedford, TX on Labor Day weekend. I know you have to prove that you are using Ranchers Reserve and it's got to be top sirloin. No more info stated.
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I signed up for it in Bedford, TX on Labor Day weekend. I know you have to prove that you are using Ranchers Reserve and it's got to be top sirloin. No more info stated.
That was the exact issue at St Charles, IL. Reps weren't sure, were getting mixed answers. could meat be breaded or not, what else could be in the box, etc. All question marks. If RR and KCBS continue this, there need to be clearly defined rules, IMHO

Oh, they also gave us recipe cards, so that when we did turn in, we needed our entry, our receipt, and our recipe card. At least one team was turned back for not having a recipe card. Seems like if they wanted to, RR could just use those recipes, winning or not, as their own property?
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Oh, they also gave us recipe cards, so that when we did turn in, we needed our entry, our receipt, and our recipe card. At least one team was turned back for not having a recipe card. Seems like if they wanted to, RR could just use those recipes, winning or not, as their own property?
Why do you think they're doing this? I'm certain that if you read the T's & C's for the contest that Safeway owns all rights to all submitted recipes.
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