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Unread 07-07-2013, 06:18 PM   #1
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While I know that you can pre-trim meats at home for comps, is it legal to apply meat glue to chicken skins at home? Just want to make sure before I make a run of 6 hours to a comp just to have to buy and trim more chicken. Gawd I HATE that job
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I would say iilegal.
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Unread 07-07-2013, 06:36 PM   #3
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Just wondering why you think its illegal?? It has no flavor and adds none to the meat and does not tenderize the meat in any way.
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Just wondering why you think its illegal?? It has no flavor and adds none to the meat and does not tenderize the meat in any way.
I agree with Scottie -- Rule 6 says that "All competition meat shall start out raw. No pre-seasoned meat is allowed other than manufacturer enhanced or injected products..." I don't think the meat continues in the "raw" state once you add something to it, notwithstanding whether it tenderizes or imparts flavor.

Also, while I haven't used meat glue (too expensive for experimentation, and we've done well enough in chicken without it), I have heard some people say they can taste a flavor, and more importantly, since it does cause a bonding of the meat and skin, it has to have some (perhaps imperceptible) effect on the structure of the meat.
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You can take away not add before meat inspection.
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Here is language from KCBS rule 7.

All competition meat shall start out raw. No pre-
seasoned meat
is allowed other than manufacturer enhanced or injected

products, as shown on label...

Can the glue product be found on the label?

Still not convinced, contact KCBS for your official answer and make sure you take that written response with you to show the reps. at whatever contest you attend.
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Would not risk it, also you really can't season the chicken first if you have glued the skin on.. Just sayin...
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It isn't likely necessary to do this at home, if you choose to use it. It will bond in 4 to 6 hours, so depending on how you schedule your cook, it should not be a problem, to glue the skins on at the comp, just do it shortly after you get inspected.

There are different grades of transglutaminase, I suspect that some are more pure than others. When used on meat, it should be indetectable, as it is a meat product.
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Well I put my question to the KCBS so now I wait for the answer.
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The noob is thinking this: WHY are you using it? Are you trying to get a bite-through skin? If so, it's illegal. Are you trying to keep the skin on and not split/crack/fall off? Illegal.

I think you know the answer already :)
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Here is language from KCBS rule 7.

All competition meat shall start out raw. No pre-
seasoned meat
is allowed other than manufacturer enhanced or injected

products, as shown on label...

Can the glue product be found on the label?

Still not convinced, contact KCBS for your official answer and make sure you take that written response with you to show the reps. at whatever contest you attend.
^^^ This.

And why would you anyway? Chicken takes the least amount of time to cook, if your at the cooks meeting, seems you'd have time to do whatever you want.
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it is not illegal to use meat glue to hold the skin on.
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Sigh. This is what we've come to. Years ago people were trying to make the best bbq out of normal meat that they could. Now we glue the skins to the meat.
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Hey I would be happy cooking the meat the way it comes but try that at a contest and for sure you will not walk. I am not saying this is the best answer but its something I am playing with and I want to get all the info that I can.
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No, I get it. I'd guess illegal.

And for the record, I've walked with 'normal' chicken. But, then not nearly as consistently as those who do all sorts of crazy things. Good luck to you!
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