Jeff_in_KC
somebody shut me the fark up.
Well, my first judging effort is in the books. Judged at North Kansas city today and it was an experience. Not all positive. I learned a few things. First off and what bothered me the most was that I now see the importance of getting as many CBJs as possible for contests. There was a guy near me who has judged a few times but between categories in our conversations, it became obvious that he had no idea how to judge BBQ as the KCBS teaches. One guy at the table I would have removed had I been a Contest Rep. The rep walked by and when the guy yawned, the rep asked him how he was and if he was asleep already. The guy replied in an annoyed tone of voice "Let's just get this show on the road already." Well hello McFly... the first turn in time isn't for another 15 minutes yet! Geez! And the woman on the other side of me... in the four categories, I bet she ate like two crackers and about a half bottle of water or less. Many times, I noticed she failed to cleanse her palate between samples. How can someone get a clear idea of a team's efforts when they've still got the taste from the team prior in their mouth??? I saw judges taking small bites out of their samples and moving on, scoring all six entries in a matter of five minutes or less and in some cases, they spent more time packing all the rest of the samples into their coolers than they did actually judging. I'm not kidding. As I considered each entry, I kept in mind all the money and effort I've spent in the last year and that many of these teams had done the same thing or more and that this is important as hell to them! I figured I owed it to the people I was judging to take my time and do it right. I was the last judge done at my table every time.
Sorry for the rant but it was what struck me about this contest. I don't mean to knock anyone specifically but dang people, come on! And I won't single out non-KCBS CBJs either because I noticed a few of them packing big coolers too! It would be my opinion (and granted I've only judged once) that KCBS forbid the removal of remaining samples and maybe things would get better. And it could be that it was just this contest or because it was the first contest of the year and everyone's pumped to eat Q. Don't get me wrong... if you are a judge who takes home Q after a contest judging, I don't have a problem with it if that's what you want to do. I would hope that everyone would at least not make it so apparent that they're hoarding leftovers.
Anyway, I don't know if it was rust of a long winter or what but there were some bad samples and a few really good ones that stood out. I had one chicken that stood out head and shoulders above the others. There was one that was all white meat sliced, one legs and white meat sliced and one thighs with white meat sliced. The white meat in all instances was good and moist but not really outstanding in flavor.
Ribs... not a one really impressed me. The two that scored the best for appearance were really not good tender-wise or in flavor. One was LOADED with black pepper and dry. The other was undercooked and loaded with sauce. There was four babyback entries, a St. Louis spare entry and well... one that was a full spare that I have no idea how they got six in a box! Three of the six I thought were over-sauced and masked the meat flavor.
Pork... well, I love pulled pork and I got myself in trouble here, eating practically all the samples I took! :lol: There were a couple of interesting ideas, including one that piled six little piles for their entry. A couple had cubed pieces with the pulled and one was all chunked. The pork scores were the best of all categories.
Brisket... Some good ones here but one was about a half inch thick (overcooked?) and one was my GAWD over-smoked! It was so bitter I could hardly eat it and when I can't eat Q, that's bad! It was the only one I gave a "3" to of all entries in all categories. All but one entry included sliced and burnt ends (or at least cubed point). There was one stand-out brisket that I gave 999 to.
Afterwards, I stuck around and helped clean up tables, put away tray stands and fold chairs, got my judging record sheet signed by the rep and made like a tree...
So what did I learn? I learned of course the importance of taking your time, cleansing the palate and doing right by the teams I'm judging. I learned a few ideas for turn in boxes. I learned to discriminate between some really similar entry samples which I think will help me to determine subtle differences that can make or break an entry, mine or anyone's. I learned that whenever I judge, I will not only operate by KCBS code of ethics but also my own code of ethics that includes being sure, being last to turn in my score card, never removing ANY BBQ samples from the judging area and always staying to help clean up afterwards.
One thing I noticed, at least at my table, there was really zero discussion of the samples after each round of judging so I wasn't able to ascertain what everyone thought. I did compare a bit with a guy next to me after the ribs. But no discussion and the Master CBJ at the other end of the table I thought would help some of us but he wasn't too talkative.
Another thing... I didn't see one single table captain sample any Q. Are they doing it elsewhere or what? Mine was a girl who worked WAY too hard to be able to take the time to eat any samples. I'm wondering about the validity of trying to put eight samples in a box. What do you all think? Anyone notice similar?
While part of it was frustrating and I wanted to be out cooking, I enjoyed the experience. I plan to judge another contest in May and maybe one late in the season. I think I'll try to do two or three a year, just to stay up with everything.
Sorry for the rant but it was what struck me about this contest. I don't mean to knock anyone specifically but dang people, come on! And I won't single out non-KCBS CBJs either because I noticed a few of them packing big coolers too! It would be my opinion (and granted I've only judged once) that KCBS forbid the removal of remaining samples and maybe things would get better. And it could be that it was just this contest or because it was the first contest of the year and everyone's pumped to eat Q. Don't get me wrong... if you are a judge who takes home Q after a contest judging, I don't have a problem with it if that's what you want to do. I would hope that everyone would at least not make it so apparent that they're hoarding leftovers.
Anyway, I don't know if it was rust of a long winter or what but there were some bad samples and a few really good ones that stood out. I had one chicken that stood out head and shoulders above the others. There was one that was all white meat sliced, one legs and white meat sliced and one thighs with white meat sliced. The white meat in all instances was good and moist but not really outstanding in flavor.
Ribs... not a one really impressed me. The two that scored the best for appearance were really not good tender-wise or in flavor. One was LOADED with black pepper and dry. The other was undercooked and loaded with sauce. There was four babyback entries, a St. Louis spare entry and well... one that was a full spare that I have no idea how they got six in a box! Three of the six I thought were over-sauced and masked the meat flavor.
Pork... well, I love pulled pork and I got myself in trouble here, eating practically all the samples I took! :lol: There were a couple of interesting ideas, including one that piled six little piles for their entry. A couple had cubed pieces with the pulled and one was all chunked. The pork scores were the best of all categories.
Brisket... Some good ones here but one was about a half inch thick (overcooked?) and one was my GAWD over-smoked! It was so bitter I could hardly eat it and when I can't eat Q, that's bad! It was the only one I gave a "3" to of all entries in all categories. All but one entry included sliced and burnt ends (or at least cubed point). There was one stand-out brisket that I gave 999 to.
Afterwards, I stuck around and helped clean up tables, put away tray stands and fold chairs, got my judging record sheet signed by the rep and made like a tree...
So what did I learn? I learned of course the importance of taking your time, cleansing the palate and doing right by the teams I'm judging. I learned a few ideas for turn in boxes. I learned to discriminate between some really similar entry samples which I think will help me to determine subtle differences that can make or break an entry, mine or anyone's. I learned that whenever I judge, I will not only operate by KCBS code of ethics but also my own code of ethics that includes being sure, being last to turn in my score card, never removing ANY BBQ samples from the judging area and always staying to help clean up afterwards.
One thing I noticed, at least at my table, there was really zero discussion of the samples after each round of judging so I wasn't able to ascertain what everyone thought. I did compare a bit with a guy next to me after the ribs. But no discussion and the Master CBJ at the other end of the table I thought would help some of us but he wasn't too talkative.
Another thing... I didn't see one single table captain sample any Q. Are they doing it elsewhere or what? Mine was a girl who worked WAY too hard to be able to take the time to eat any samples. I'm wondering about the validity of trying to put eight samples in a box. What do you all think? Anyone notice similar?
While part of it was frustrating and I wanted to be out cooking, I enjoyed the experience. I plan to judge another contest in May and maybe one late in the season. I think I'll try to do two or three a year, just to stay up with everything.
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