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Unread 03-14-2013, 12:24 PM   #1
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Been reading that power at KCBS events power can be unreliable.

Can someone expand on that such as quick blips where power is lost or long time where power is lost?

Our problem is we are running a pellet pooper so power is big for us. I have a generator but is a big loud gas one and most comps would probably frown on us using it due to the noise.

If it is quick I will bring a UPS and just plug my smoker into that which should give me 60 or so minutes of run time for rolling blackouts.

The other option we have been debating is just running an inventor directly off of our truck battery and firing up the truck every now and then and keep the electricity for stuff like lights.
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Take the generator with, no one is going to complain about noise if they get to borrow power from ya.
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Take the generator with, no one is going to complain about noise if they get to borrow power from ya.
Some contests do not allow loud generators, not picking on any contest but here is an example of a contest on their entry form...

Electricity is
not

available for Cooking Teams during
Smokin’ In The Junction
.


If you require electricity for
your contest kitchen area, you are required to provide your own generator.

All generators must be muffled

to respect Valley Junction residents, fellow competitors, and event attendees.

(Suggested generator
-

Honda EU3000is or equivalent).

Without refunding entry fees, HVJF may request a competitor to leave if
the competitors generator is deemed too loud.

Teams or individuals attempting to use electricity outlets lo-
cated on or near Valley Junction trees or buildings will be immediately removed from the contest without re-
fund.



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Been reading that power at KCBS events power can be unreliable.

Can someone expand on that such as quick blips where power is lost or long time where power is lost?

Our problem is we are running a pellet pooper so power is big for us. I have a generator but is a big loud gas one and most comps would probably frown on us using it due to the noise.

If it is quick I will bring a UPS and just plug my smoker into that which should give me 60 or so minutes of run time for rolling blackouts.

The other option we have been debating is just running an inventor directly off of our truck battery and firing up the truck every now and then and keep the electricity for stuff like lights.
Last year I had a pellet pooper and at one contest power went out completely no explanation. At another contest(unsanctioned) the band performing unplugged my plug to plug their equipment in. At another contest the generators were in the middle of the area but they let the public walk around the competitors and my neighbors cord was tripped on by someone and broke the ground on the plug. He didnt have another extension cord so he had issues the rest of the night
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its not so much running a generator if its actually needed, its running a generator all night long to power party lights and a forced air heater and everyone is inside sleeping
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the last comp i went to, there was generators everywhere.
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Some contests do not allow loud generators, not picking on any contest but here is an example of a contest on their entry form...

Electricity is
not

available for Cooking Teams during
Smokin’ In The Junction
.


If you require electricity for
your contest kitchen area, you are required to provide your own generator.

All generators must be muffled

to respect Valley Junction residents, fellow competitors, and event attendees.

(Suggested generator
-

Honda EU3000is or equivalent).

Without refunding entry fees, HVJF may request a competitor to leave if
the competitors generator is deemed too loud.

Teams or individuals attempting to use electricity outlets lo-
cated on or near Valley Junction trees or buildings will be immediately removed from the contest without re-
fund.


The comps we have signed up say the same thing.

Do not have enough money to throw into a honda generator right now.
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its not so much running a generator if its actually needed, its running a generator all night long to power party lights and a forced air heater and everyone is inside sleeping
So basically bring the generator but a ton of extension cords?
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Thats why you start out cooking old school...no elec. no guru, just a charcoal or stickburner. That way when everything goes to crap, you fall back on your skills and you still prevail
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Take the generator with, no one is going to complain about noise if they get to borrow power from ya.
I respectfully disagree with this. I have been at competitions where construction generators were used and that team was told to shut it down.

Smoke&Honey, I don't take a chance on comp power. I have seen power failures caused by everything from standing water to someone using a home power strip that was defective and taking out the distribution panel. I have a deep cycle battery and an inverter/charger that powers my FEC. It is plugged into comp power and passes it through when the power is live, but it switches automatically to the battery if the comp power fails. While comp power is live it charges the battery.

You can also use a portable backup power source like this...

http://www.duracellpower.com/documen...cs/DRPP600.pdf

or similar.
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Pick up an inverter and a battery... most pellet pits pull next to nothing (other than maybe startup with the hot rod).

Should power be poor... or unavailable you can run literally for days on a deep cycle battery...

My current set up is a TrippLite inverter/charger/switch that charges my batteries as needed, then if electric is interrupted it switches to inverter power. I've ran 2 FECs and a PG1000 for 18 hours on battery only, without a problem, and with honestly minimal discharge from the battery.

It's worth the peace of mind at contest. For less than the cost of 1 contest you can get some kind of battery backup/primary source, and not have to worry about it at all your other contests. Definitely worth it...

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I built vented cover to put over my geneator even though it is fairly quite. Works great let me see if I can dig some pics up.
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Been reading that power at KCBS events power can be unreliable.
This is not always the case. Sure there can be issues from time to time, but it has been my experience that most organizers take measures to make sure there is plenty of power for the teams.

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Can someone expand on that such as quick blips where power is lost or long time where power is lost?
Power outages can range from small hiccups to lengthy outages.

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Our problem is we are running a pellet pooper so power is big for us. I have a generator but is a big loud gas one and most comps would probably frown on us using it due to the noise.

If it is quick I will bring a UPS and just plug my smoker into that which should give me 60 or so minutes of run time for rolling blackouts.
I would run a test at home to see just how long you can keep your pellet pooper running on a UPS. Plug it in to the UPS and then start your pooper and let it go until the UPS runs out of juice. Also try it after the pooper is already to temp, that way you will have no suprises as to how long it will last in case you do have a lapse in power.
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Thats why you start out cooking old school...no elec. no guru, just a charcoal or stickburner. That way when everything goes to crap, you fall back on your skills and you still prevail
Yeah but in the morning I will be refreshed and relaxed where you stickers will be hungover and exhausted.
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