What did I buy?? Help...

tony.shuda · 03-13-2013, 03:42 PM

Long time lurker, first time poster. Long story short, I purchased what I think is an EP 330 in Natural Gas from a person on Craigslist. When I got home I discovered that it had a regulator attached to it

I called Weber with the SN. They told me that it was indeed an EP 330 in NG. They also said that it left the factory with a 10' hose with Quick Disconnect.

So here's the problem. I sent Weber the pictures below and asked them if they could tell me if the guts (bulkhead and manifold) were swapped on the grill. They were not able to.

I think it's obvious that the previous owner attempted to convert this grill. How do I know if he stopped at the regulator or if he swapped any other parts?

Help!

fweck · 03-13-2013, 03:50 PM

It's supposed to have a regulator. Read the caution that is on the label in the second picture.

ButtBurner · 03-13-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fweck

It's supposed to have a regulator. Read the caution that is on the label in the second picture.

Yeah, but that regulator looks like it screws onto a propane tank, not NG

MS2SB · 03-13-2013, 04:00 PM

If you bought it off CG, can't you just contact the seller and ask him how far he got with his conversion?

mbshop · 03-13-2013, 04:01 PM

that looks like it would work but if the jets have not been changed then it might not work correctly.

ButtBurner · 03-13-2013, 04:02 PM

I think the jets are stamped with some kind of identifying mark so they dont get mixed up

tony.shuda · 03-13-2013, 04:05 PM

The seller is not responding to my emails or calls.

Per Weber CSR, Natural Gas grills don't have regulators. They ship with a 10' hose with quick detach.

Groundhog66 · 03-13-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tony.shuda

The seller is not responding to my emails or calls.

He took the money, and took the phone off the hook.

Hopefully you can get it all sorted out...

JP7794 · 03-13-2013, 04:17 PM

I would take it to a place that specializes in gas grills. They will be more than happy to look at it for you as you will probably need parts from them.

Good luck!

Meat & Heat · 03-13-2013, 10:16 PM

The burner orifices should be marked with either an lp or ng on them, most of the time they are stamped in sometimes color coded. If you have the manual it should tell you.
You are correct that is a propane regulator, a natural gas regulator will have either a 1/2ips or 3/8ips female threaded end on it. I would call the manufacturer back and get infor on the orifices then start there.
If you run propane with the natural gas orifice the flame will be about three times the size as the hole is larger than a propane one.

Good luck.

treytexag · 03-14-2013, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Meat & Heat

The burner orifices should be marked with either an lp or ng on them, most of the time they are stamped in sometimes color coded. If you have the manual it should tell you.
You are correct that is a propane regulator, a natural gas regulator will have either a 1/2ips or 3/8ips female threaded end on it. I would call the manufacturer back and get infor on the orifices then start there.
If you run propane with the natural gas orifice the flame will be about three times the size as the hole is larger than a propane one.

Good luck.

That's right, since the heating value of NG is around 1,000 btu/scf and the heating value of propane is about 2,500 btu/scf.

I think the original poster wants to run NG. I'm not giving you any advice, and YMMV, but if that were mine, I'd remove the propane regulator and short piece of attached hose, then I would simply run my flexible NG hose to the grill and try it out. If the original seller converted it to run propane, you won't be able to get enough NG to the burners to run on "high". I'm an Engineer, and I do not recommend you do what I would do here.

Again, YMMV.

Johnny_Crunch · 03-14-2013, 06:32 AM

I hope you bought it cheap. I would just swap out the hose and light it to see what I got.

tony.shuda · 03-14-2013, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by treytexag

That's right, since the heating value of NG is around 1,000 btu/scf and the heating value of propane is about 2,500 btu/scf.

I think the original poster wants to run NG. I'm not giving you any advice, and YMMV, but if that were mine, I'd remove the propane regulator and short piece of attached hose, then I would simply run my flexible NG hose to the grill and try it out. If the original seller converted it to run propane, you won't be able to get enough NG to the burners to run on "high". I'm an Engineer, and I do not recommend you do what I would do here.

Again, YMMV.

Good call. I have the hose coming to me from Weber. Now that I understand the heating value, I can test and find out for myself. Thanks for the advice!

I got the grill for 450 so I think I should be ok

03-13-2013, 03:50 PM	#2
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JP7794 Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 04-13-12 Location: KANSAS CITY MISSOURI Downloads: 2 Uploads: 1	I would take it to a place that specializes in gas grills. They will be more than happy to look at it for you as you will probably need parts from them. Good luck! __________________ "You don't win friends with salad" - Homer Simpson Jim - KCBS CBJ 18.5" WSM - Packer Green Thermapen - Auber PID Temperature Controller - Mini WSM GO PACK GO!

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Johnny_Crunch Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-03-10 Location: Cypress TX Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I hope you bought it cheap. I would just swap out the hose and light it to see what I got. __________________ J Crunch

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ButtBurner is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-18-12 Location: Dearborn Mi Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think the jets are stamped with some kind of identifying mark so they dont get mixed up

03-13-2013, 04:05 PM	#7
tony.shuda Got rid of the matchlight. Join Date: 03-11-13 Location: PA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The seller is not responding to my emails or calls. Per Weber CSR, Natural Gas grills don't have regulators. They ship with a 10' hose with quick detach.

03-13-2013, 10:16 PM	#10
Meat & Heat Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 05-17-12 Location: Grand Junction CO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The burner orifices should be marked with either an lp or ng on them, most of the time they are stamped in sometimes color coded. If you have the manual it should tell you. You are correct that is a propane regulator, a natural gas regulator will have either a 1/2ips or 3/8ips female threaded end on it. I would call the manufacturer back and get infor on the orifices then start there. If you run propane with the natural gas orifice the flame will be about three times the size as the hole is larger than a propane one. Good luck.