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Unread 06-23-2013, 03:09 PM   #16
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Oh man! That's going to be a sweet freaking smoker.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:13 PM   #17
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Keep us updated. I can not wait to see the final product.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 05:38 PM   #18
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Ok, after much aggrivation and a little home re-wiring, I finally got a set up to where my stick welder doesn't blow the breaker every time I touch it to the tank.

Now, the issue is the welding itself. The stick sparkrs and "melts" away, but there is no weld left behind. I have tried many different power settings, including the highest. Can this be because of cheap sticks i bought at harbor freight? I think i'm going to stop at Home Depot tomorrow after work and pick up some different ones to try.

This is my first time welding, so I don't know for sure if that's the issue or not, but we'll see. Should have some pics tomorrow night.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 06:24 PM   #19
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This is cool. I've never actually seen one of these tanks but I like where you are going with it
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Unread 06-23-2013, 06:32 PM   #20
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Ok, after much aggrivation and a little home re-wiring, I finally got a set up to where my stick welder doesn't blow the breaker every time I touch it to the tank.

Now, the issue is the welding itself. The stick sparkrs and "melts" away, but there is no weld left behind. I have tried many different power settings, including the highest. Can this be because of cheap sticks i bought at harbor freight? I think i'm going to stop at Home Depot tomorrow after work and pick up some different ones to try.

This is my first time welding, so I don't know for sure if that's the issue or not, but we'll see. Should have some pics tomorrow night.
Sounds like dirty metal and/or bad ground. You have to make sure that all metal being welded is ground to bare metal and clean. Also make sure the metal where you attach the ground clamp to is bare and clean.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 06:49 PM   #21
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Those tank are very thin and rust out. They good for a short term smoker , just don't invest lot of money in it.
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Unread 06-23-2013, 06:50 PM   #22
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BTW need a mig to weld them with
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Unread 06-23-2013, 09:00 PM   #23
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Sounds like dirty metal and/or bad ground. You have to make sure that all metal being welded is ground to bare metal and clean. Also make sure the metal where you attach the ground clamp to is bare and clean.
Ground should be good- I ground down a spot on the tank leg with an angle grinder to bare metal. I thought I cleaned the weld area well enough between sand paper and angle grinding. I will see what more I can get off tomorrow and report on the results.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Unread 06-23-2013, 09:28 PM   #24
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Yeah, like jestridge said, it's too thin to stick weld. It's like welding a muffler, get a MIG welder.
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Looking forward to your build. Keep the pics comming
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Unread 06-27-2013, 01:49 PM   #26
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OK, so due to the damn rain and some difficulties with my welding equipment, I haven't been able to make any progress on the build. I did however make a few design changes:

1) I relocated the fire box to directly underneath the cooking chamber. This just seemed to make more sense and will be much easier to fabricate the transfer tube without all the awkward angles.

2) I changed the doors to the cooking chamber from vertical opening to lateral opening. This will eliminate the need for a counter-weight system or pneumatic type opening cylinders. Being that this thing will be around 6ft tall, not including the stacks, it will be much easier to open and close without having to reach up over my head.

3) I changed the door and intakes on the firebox from a traditional hinged door to an integrated system where the coal/wood basket and air intakes are attached to the firebox door. There will be a gasket around the door and a set of lever locks to keep it closed tightly. The intakes will consist of a pair of 3" iron pipes with notches on the protruding ends. Flow will be controlled by screwing/unscrewing a pipe cap. The pipes will be cut in half where they run under the basket, providing a even burn. I may have an additional intake at the back of the firebox in case I need to get temps even higher.

I plan to have some kind of baffle where the smoke transfer tube enters the cooking chamber, but I haven't quite worked it out yet. It may be as simple as a piece of plate steel on a pivot.

So. There it is. Hopefully I'll get some decent weather soon and I can get on with the build.
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Unread 06-27-2013, 02:32 PM   #27
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The slide out firebox is the bomb, except on windy days. I did the same thing on my Bandera, so easy to deal with.
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Unread 08-07-2013, 10:22 PM   #28
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Well, the damn weather still isn't cooperating. Every time I tried to go work on the tank it's either raining or too hot and muggy to comfortably wear my safety gear.

So I decided to drag all my tools and junk into the basement and start work on the fire drum, err box.



Smoke transfer tube opening laid out.



And cut out.



I found a bed frame at the scrap yard to use for the rails. First I have to remove the rivets from the hinged cross members.



I ground off one end of the rivet with the angle grinder and popped it out with the welding hammer.

I cut the rails to length, or rather I tried to. I don't know what bed frames are made of, but it ruined 3 metal cutting blades.



I eventually put a cut off disk on my angle grinder and that seemed to work much better.

I laid out the hole in the drum lid for the basket to slide thru.



And cut it out with the jig saw. Then I cut 2 pieces of 1.5 x 1/8 flat steel and bent the ends to support the end of the rails.

Here's everything mocked-up.



I need to tweek the length of the support bars so that the rails sit out further toward the edges.

I'm going to bring home some pallets from work tomorrow and burn out the liner over the weekend (hopefully). Once I clean out the ashes, I'm going to start welding it together.

I have 2 pieces of sheet steel- I'm planning to use the bigger one to fabricate the smoke transfer tube and the smaller one to make the front of the pull-out basket.

I also think I'm going to get some small angle iron to reinforce and square up the drum lid so it seals better and is more sturdy.

I'll post more pics when I get more done, but don't hold your breath! At this rate, the rig will be ready to fire up just in time for my funeral.

Thanks for looking!
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Unread 08-07-2013, 10:28 PM   #29
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Unread 08-08-2013, 12:54 AM   #30
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Based On my math your tank is 275 gallons. Good luck on your build. It looks good so far.
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