Backyard Teams Business Licenses

pmanzi · 10-02-2012, 09:42 AM

We competed this past weekend at Smoke-n-Thunder in Rome GA as a backyard team and did well walking for Ribs, Chicken, Peoples Choice and Reserve Grand (backyard). When I got home I noticed the checks were made out to the team name and not to me personally and as this is just a fun hobby I don't have a business under the team name so that I can cash the checks. I have contacted the organizer and they are willing to recut the checks and make it right so no worries there. Before sending them back the checks I did get to get that process rolling I wanted to check and see what other backyard teams do as it relates to creating a business for their team. I think I can create a sole proprietorship with a DBA of the team name so that if this happens again I would be able to cash the checks but given that we only do 3-4 comps a year not sure the cost of the license is worth it, or if since it is technically a food service business will I even have trouble getting a license since I don't have a kitchen to work out of.
any insight others have in how they have handled similar situations would be great.

Fat Freddy · 10-02-2012, 10:15 AM

My bank has no problem cashing checks made out to my team. They just have me sign the back like always. Of course since I cook for several people at the bank that may make a difference.

fnbish · 10-02-2012, 11:10 AM

Hey Phil. Good to see you guys there and good job too. I saw this as well and caught it right before I left luckily. All they did was add my name next to the team name on the check and told me if I had an issue they would issue me another. The cashier at the bank did still look at it funny and go see the manager, but they took it.

It is a small issue though and not sure why they cut the checks this way since so many of the teams are not businesses. I thought the would go off how we signed the tax form so they can see if you put a business name with a tax id number or just your name with ssn. But they didn't have us fill out the forms till close to turn ins and they checks were already cut.

I've done about 20 competitions starting from last year and this is only the 2nd time I've had the issue. The first time it was a run around. Hopefully it can be something they become aware of for next year. Other than that it was a great competition from what I saw

. I'm starting to do all the competition reviews online and will mention it. I'm sure just a little oversight.

All that blabbing being said to answer your actual question

, I can only recommend checking your check before you head out or double checking with the organizer before hand how they will issue the checks. I almost missed it till I was in the car about out of the gate. Not worth setting up the business for your situation I would guess.

pmanzi · 10-02-2012, 02:39 PM

Good meeting you too Jason. I tried adding my name next to the team name and my bank still would not take it. Tried going to the issuing bank and they would not cash them either. Guess I have no option other then to mail them back and get another one sent to me.

Lake Dogs · 10-02-2012, 02:43 PM

Unfortunately this is a mistake made by the organizer... Hopefully they'll learn to just make the checks out to the head cook (listed/required on almost every entry form I've ever seen).

DawgPhan · 10-02-2012, 02:53 PM

it has been a while since I picked up a check, but seems like they were always made out to the team name.

Smokin' Gnome BBQ · 10-02-2012, 02:57 PM

if an organizer doesnt have a place to who the checks are to be made out to, I write down the side and highlight for them who I want the checks made out to...PLEASE MAKE CHECK PAYABLE TO...... it seems to work. oh and I always photo copy my entry form and check...just in case...

Divemaster · 10-02-2012, 04:00 PM

My bank had no problem opening a DBA account without me having to start a bus.

Check with your bank. Mine is actually free and I use only that accout for all of my comp payments from meat to gas. It let's me track the expenses with greater ease too.

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pmanzi · 10-02-2012, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divemaster

My bank had no problem opening a DBA account without me having to start a bus.

Not sure if it is state rules or different banking rules but they would not let me open a DBA account without a business license.

10-02-2012, 09:42 AM	#1
pmanzi Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 06-30-12 Location: Suwanee, GA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Backyard Teams Business Licenses We competed this past weekend at Smoke-n-Thunder in Rome GA as a backyard team and did well walking for Ribs, Chicken, Peoples Choice and Reserve Grand (backyard). When I got home I noticed the checks were made out to the team name and not to me personally and as this is just a fun hobby I don't have a business under the team name so that I can cash the checks. I have contacted the organizer and they are willing to recut the checks and make it right so no worries there. Before sending them back the checks I did get to get that process rolling I wanted to check and see what other backyard teams do as it relates to creating a business for their team. I think I can create a sole proprietorship with a DBA of the team name so that if this happens again I would be able to cash the checks but given that we only do 3-4 comps a year not sure the cost of the license is worth it, or if since it is technically a food service business will I even have trouble getting a license since I don't have a kitchen to work out of. any insight others have in how they have handled similar situations would be great. __________________ -Phil Saucy Swine and Bovine Oklahoma Joe Offset with Horizon Convection Plate Brinkmann Smoke & Grill Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain CyberQ WiFi

10-02-2012, 10:15 AM	#2
Fat Freddy Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 12-31-10 Location: Albert City, Iowa Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My bank has no problem cashing checks made out to my team. They just have me sign the back like always. Of course since I cook for several people at the bank that may make a difference. __________________ Oversize Load BBQ team

10-02-2012, 11:10 AM	#3
fnbish is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 01-10-11 Location: Buford, GA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hey Phil. Good to see you guys there and good job too. I saw this as well and caught it right before I left luckily. All they did was add my name next to the team name on the check and told me if I had an issue they would issue me another. The cashier at the bank did still look at it funny and go see the manager, but they took it. It is a small issue though and not sure why they cut the checks this way since so many of the teams are not businesses. I thought the would go off how we signed the tax form so they can see if you put a business name with a tax id number or just your name with ssn. But they didn't have us fill out the forms till close to turn ins and they checks were already cut. I've done about 20 competitions starting from last year and this is only the 2nd time I've had the issue. The first time it was a run around. Hopefully it can be something they become aware of for next year. Other than that it was a great competition from what I saw . I'm starting to do all the competition reviews online and will mention it. I'm sure just a little oversight. All that blabbing being said to answer your actual question , I can only recommend checking your check before you head out or double checking with the organizer before hand how they will issue the checks. I almost missed it till I was in the car about out of the gate. Not worth setting up the business for your situation I would guess. __________________ -Jason 22.5 WSM Backwoods G2 Party Backwoods G2 Chubby Big Green Egg XL Weber 18.5 Kettle "Tenacious Q" Competition Team Follow Tenacious Q on Facebook!! KCBS CBJ

10-02-2012, 02:39 PM	#4
pmanzi Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 06-30-12 Location: Suwanee, GA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Good meeting you too Jason. I tried adding my name next to the team name and my bank still would not take it. Tried going to the issuing bank and they would not cash them either. Guess I have no option other then to mail them back and get another one sent to me. __________________ -Phil Saucy Swine and Bovine Oklahoma Joe Offset with Horizon Convection Plate Brinkmann Smoke & Grill Great Outdoors Smokey Mountain CyberQ WiFi

10-02-2012, 02:43 PM	#5
Lake Dogs Babbling Farker Join Date: 07-14-09 Location: Lake Sinclair, GA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Unfortunately this is a mistake made by the organizer... Hopefully they'll learn to just make the checks out to the head cook (listed/required on almost every entry form I've ever seen). __________________ Hance - Lake Dogs Cooking Team - MiM/MBN/GBA CBJ and comp cook Lake Sinclair, GA (strategically about an hour from everywhere)

10-02-2012, 02:53 PM	#6
DawgPhan is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 08-09-07 Location: Atlanta, Ga Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	it has been a while since I picked up a check, but seems like they were always made out to the team name.

10-02-2012, 02:57 PM	#7
Smokin' Gnome BBQ is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 05-31-07 Location: Shippensburg PA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	if an organizer doesnt have a place to who the checks are to be made out to, I write down the side and highlight for them who I want the checks made out to...PLEASE MAKE CHECK PAYABLE TO...... it seems to work. oh and I always photo copy my entry form and check...just in case... __________________ I need a 2009 kcbs member pin, help a brother out!

10-02-2012, 04:00 PM	#8
Divemaster somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 09-23-07 Location: North Side of Chicago Illinois Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My bank had no problem opening a DBA account without me having to start a bus. Check with your bank. Mine is actually free and I use only that accout for all of my comp payments from meat to gas. It let's me track the expenses with greater ease too. Sent from my DROID2 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Jeff CBJ# 23376 Stockcar BBQ Race Fast, Cook Slow, and Enjoy Life! If it don't come off a smoker, it's just a side dish! Lang 60 Patio (The Mistress), Black Stainless Lang 36 (Little Princess), Large BGE (Ramona), Big Green UDS (Cottage Cooker), Brinkman SnP Pro (Little Bubba-Retired), 8 Burner Gasser, 3 - 22.5" & 1 - 18" (circa 1975) Weber Grills, & a Weber Smoky Joe.