I give up (DMV Rant)

Sawdustguy · 11-28-2005, 07:22 PM

I don't have a clue what to do now. I went to DMV to register my Lang 84 and they wouldn't register it. It wasn't because I had the wrong paperwork or misfilled out the forms. The people at DMV told me that BBQ trailers are not required to be registered. I guarranty the first time I take it to a contest I will be pulled over and given a ticket. I even tried to register it as a utility trailer and when they saw the certificate of origin that said BBQ trailer they refused. I have no idea what to do now. I apologize if I offended anyone who may work at DMV but they were nasty, condesending and acted as if I should have known that and wasted their time. I am still not convinced I do not have to register it but what can I do? Even the manager at DMV told me he wouldn't register the trailer. I had a check ready to pay the sales tax and the paperwork in hand and they turned me away.

BBQchef33 · 11-28-2005, 07:28 PM

ask a cop.

rookiedad · 11-28-2005, 07:45 PM

sounds like it was your lucky day, but if your worried about a ticket double check with your local police or sheriff to see what they say. if they say you need it and dmv says you don't, have somebody down there put it in writing with a signature so you got something to protect yourself with if you do have to fight a ticket. about the people in dmv being nasty and condesending, thats so unlike them! i've never heard of such a thing! but seriously though, did you go to riverhead? they really are pretty accomadating. and i wouldn't worry about getting a ticket because the police love bbq! you might even get a police escort!
phil

Sawdustguy · 11-28-2005, 07:54 PM

Thats what I am gonna do. I will try another DMV office and see what they do.

chad · 11-28-2005, 08:00 PM

Bro, I have run into basically the same situation here in FL. I too have the certificate of origination, etc. and have gotten a similar (but not rude - must be a NY thing)

response from the tax folks.

My Kingfisher still has no tag - usually I skank the RV tag and hang it on the back - but when we went to Key Largo Tim pulled it sans tag and I had the travel trailer (I KNOW it needs a tag!).

I've talked to several guys that compete all over the area and they don't tag the cookers.

Like the others said, check with your local law enforcement guys - they'll be the ones giving you the ticket. If they say it's clean - you're a few hundred $$ ahead.

Smoker · 11-28-2005, 08:00 PM

Guy,

See if you can send an email to their website and if you get a response just print it out and keep it with you.

Steve

Sawdustguy · 11-28-2005, 08:27 PM

Great idea Steve!

nmayeux · 11-28-2005, 08:39 PM

Speak of the devil! I just registered my cooker, and I really feel that it was a waste of time! Although I am only out $12.00, the hassle has made me question registering at all. In Georgia, only certain counties make you register your trailer if it is under 2000#(Cobb is one!), and you only need a title if it is over 2000#. The problem is that although my county requires registration, they use the state manufacturer database to register the vehicle. As most pit builders are too small to make the state's list, you cannot register the pit! The poor lady at the tag office finally called it a "utility trailer" with a description as a bbq pit, but I noticed that a couple of other pits in the area are not tagged at all. I agree with the guys above, if the cops say it is ok, and you have an e-mail from the tag office, then you should be ok.

The next problem is mounting the tag! I am going to get some of those adhesive backed magnets to place on the plate so that I can just stick it on the fire box door. This will allow me to remove it when I'm cooking, but allow it to be displayed in the best possible place when on the road.

BrooklynQ · 11-28-2005, 09:18 PM

Guy - I'd check with another DMV office. I know for a FACT - yes, God Almighty FACT - that Rob from Big Island BBQ has his Lang registered and tagged with its own license plate. PM me if you need his email. I don't know which DMV office you went to, but the one in Haupauge has told me incorrect information in the past.

parrothead · 11-28-2005, 10:07 PM

A lot of states do not license single use trailors, such as generators, bbq pits, etc. If the trailor can be used for nothing else other than a pit, then I would not worry about it.

Sawdustguy · 11-29-2005, 05:20 AM

I absolutely believe you Rob. I spoke to Bobby. When I told the people the people at DMV about Bobby's Lang, thats when they copped the attitude.

homebbq · 11-29-2005, 06:40 AM

hmm... It must be a county thing here in FL.. I registered my Lang 84 when I got it, and paid $18 a year.

kickassbbq · 11-29-2005, 08:08 AM

Parrothead is right, at least up here in MN. The DMV told me that if the trailer could not be used for anything else, it did not have to be taged. Guess I'll have to go with that.
Haul that bad boy and if you get a ticket, go give it to the idiot at DMV that told you that it didn't need to be taged.
PARTY!!!!!!
ed

Trout_man22 · 11-29-2005, 09:12 AM

Here in VA they'll give plates to anything with wheels that passes inspection, little red wagons, soap boxs, prams, $14 a year or $44 for the life of the trailer.

qman · 11-29-2005, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homebbq

hmm... It must be a county thing here in FL.. I registered my Lang 84 when I got it, and paid $18 a year.

Kevin: Here is an excerpt from a State WebSite.

Auto Registration

All motor vehicles and trailers in the State of Florida must be registered and /or titled. It is the responsibility of the Tax Collector, in his capacity as agent for the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles, to provide the necessary services and operations to accomplish this job. The Tax Collector works very closely with this state agency to ensure all transactions are conducted according to state statutes. For answers to your specific questions, select from the menu or go directly to the DHSMV Home Page!

It is state law that all trailers be registered-the and/or in the above refers to an exception made for mobile homes that are permently installed on foundations-they only have to be titled.

The local county tax collector is responsible for inforcing the regisration laws.

Also--if your BBQ Pit is used for commercial/catering etc, you are supposed to pay TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY tax on it every year, too.

11-28-2005, 07:22 PM	#1
Sawdustguy Babbling Farker Join Date: 09-14-05 Location: Manorville, Long Island Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I give up (DMV Rant) I don't have a clue what to do now. I went to DMV to register my Lang 84 and they wouldn't register it. It wasn't because I had the wrong paperwork or misfilled out the forms. The people at DMV told me that BBQ trailers are not required to be registered. I guarranty the first time I take it to a contest I will be pulled over and given a ticket. I even tried to register it as a utility trailer and when they saw the certificate of origin that said BBQ trailer they refused. I have no idea what to do now. I apologize if I offended anyone who may work at DMV but they were nasty, condesending and acted as if I should have known that and wasted their time. I am still not convinced I do not have to register it but what can I do? Even the manager at DMV told me he wouldn't register the trailer. I had a check ready to pay the sales tax and the paperwork in hand and they turned me away. __________________ Guy (Brewmaster and Pitmaster) BBQ Team: *Two Fat Polocks BBQ Team* Brewery: Black Dog Brewery BBQ Equipment: "Sam I Am": XL Big Green Egg "Barbra Q": Lang 84 Deluxe "R2 and D2": Twin 22" Weber Smokey Mountains Brewery: Custom Made Automated Souped Up Sabco

11-28-2005, 07:28 PM	#2
BBQchef33 Grand Poobah and Site Admin Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Long Island, NY Downloads: 10 Uploads: 4	ask a cop. __________________ Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Klose built MoAB (Mother of All Banderas) passed on to Big Dog, 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 1 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 1 Pit Barrel Cooker, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM

11-28-2005, 07:54 PM	#4
Sawdustguy Babbling Farker Join Date: 09-14-05 Location: Manorville, Long Island Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thats what I am gonna do. I will try another DMV office and see what they do. __________________ Guy (Brewmaster and Pitmaster) BBQ Team: *Two Fat Polocks BBQ Team* Brewery: Black Dog Brewery BBQ Equipment: "Sam I Am": XL Big Green Egg "Barbra Q": Lang 84 Deluxe "R2 and D2": Twin 22" Weber Smokey Mountains Brewery: Custom Made Automated Souped Up Sabco

11-28-2005, 08:00 PM	#5
chad somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 08-13-03 Location: Clearwater, FL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bro, I have run into basically the same situation here in FL. I too have the certificate of origination, etc. and have gotten a similar (but not rude - must be a NY thing) response from the tax folks. My Kingfisher still has no tag - usually I skank the RV tag and hang it on the back - but when we went to Key Largo Tim pulled it sans tag and I had the travel trailer (I KNOW it needs a tag!). I've talked to several guys that compete all over the area and they don't tag the cookers. Like the others said, check with your local law enforcement guys - they'll be the ones giving you the ticket. If they say it's clean - you're a few hundred $$ ahead. __________________ Dave Southern Brethren BBQ Competition Team "It's all about getting paid!" - Myron Mixon "I love being hated in my hometown!" - David Hair KingFisher Gator Rotisserie cooker, WSM, Stainless 5 burner with IR gas grill, Turkey Fryer, Weber JD Commemorative grill, slightly used Bandera chamber for future use as a cold smoker, Masterbuilt 40" insulated ELECTRIC smoker

11-28-2005, 08:00 PM	#6
Smoker is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-19-05 Location: Long Island NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Guy, See if you can send an email to their website and if you get a response just print it out and keep it with you. Steve Last edited by Smoker; 11-28-2005 at 08:45 PM..

11-28-2005, 07:45 PM	#3
rookiedad is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-21-05 Location: patchogue, n.y. Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	sounds like it was your lucky day, but if your worried about a ticket double check with your local police or sheriff to see what they say. if they say you need it and dmv says you don't, have somebody down there put it in writing with a signature so you got something to protect yourself with if you do have to fight a ticket. about the people in dmv being nasty and condesending, thats so unlike them! i've never heard of such a thing! but seriously though, did you go to riverhead? they really are pretty accomadating. and i wouldn't worry about getting a ticket because the police love bbq! you might even get a police escort! phil

11-28-2005, 08:27 PM	#7
Sawdustguy Babbling Farker Join Date: 09-14-05 Location: Manorville, Long Island Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Great idea Steve! __________________ Guy (Brewmaster and Pitmaster) BBQ Team: *Two Fat Polocks BBQ Team* Brewery: Black Dog Brewery BBQ Equipment: "Sam I Am": XL Big Green Egg "Barbra Q": Lang 84 Deluxe "R2 and D2": Twin 22" Weber Smokey Mountains Brewery: Custom Made Automated Souped Up Sabco

11-28-2005, 08:39 PM	#8
nmayeux Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-03-05 Location: Marietta, GA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Speak of the devil! I just registered my cooker, and I really feel that it was a waste of time! Although I am only out $12.00, the hassle has made me question registering at all. In Georgia, only certain counties make you register your trailer if it is under 2000#(Cobb is one!), and you only need a title if it is over 2000#. The problem is that although my county requires registration, they use the state manufacturer database to register the vehicle. As most pit builders are too small to make the state's list, you cannot register the pit! The poor lady at the tag office finally called it a "utility trailer" with a description as a bbq pit, but I noticed that a couple of other pits in the area are not tagged at all. I agree with the guys above, if the cops say it is ok, and you have an e-mail from the tag office, then you should be ok. The next problem is mounting the tag! I am going to get some of those adhesive backed magnets to place on the plate so that I can just stick it on the fire box door. This will allow me to remove it when I'm cooking, but allow it to be displayed in the best possible place when on the road. __________________ Noah \#/ Nauti-Que BBQ Team Pitmaster and KCBS CBJ & CTC

11-28-2005, 09:18 PM	#9
BrooklynQ Banned Join Date: 07-18-04 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Guy - I'd check with another DMV office. I know for a FACT - yes, God Almighty FACT - that Rob from Big Island BBQ has his Lang registered and tagged with its own license plate. PM me if you need his email. I don't know which DMV office you went to, but the one in Haupauge has told me incorrect information in the past.

11-28-2005, 10:07 PM	#10
parrothead somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 08-13-03 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A lot of states do not license single use trailors, such as generators, bbq pits, etc. If the trailor can be used for nothing else other than a pit, then I would not worry about it. __________________ Greg American Picker Blog

11-29-2005, 05:20 AM	#11
Sawdustguy Babbling Farker Join Date: 09-14-05 Location: Manorville, Long Island Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I absolutely believe you Rob. I spoke to Bobby. When I told the people the people at DMV about Bobby's Lang, thats when they copped the attitude. __________________ Guy (Brewmaster and Pitmaster) BBQ Team: *Two Fat Polocks BBQ Team* Brewery: Black Dog Brewery BBQ Equipment: "Sam I Am": XL Big Green Egg "Barbra Q": Lang 84 Deluxe "R2 and D2": Twin 22" Weber Smokey Mountains Brewery: Custom Made Automated Souped Up Sabco

11-29-2005, 06:40 AM	#12
homebbq Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 02-21-05 Location: Oviedo, FL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	hmm... It must be a county thing here in FL.. I registered my Lang 84 when I got it, and paid $18 a year. __________________ Kevin HomeBBQ.com www.homebbq.com www.bbqstore.co www.outdoorcookingchannel.com

11-29-2005, 08:08 AM	#13
kickassbbq is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 10-20-05 Location: mn Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Parrothead is right, at least up here in MN. The DMV told me that if the trailer could not be used for anything else, it did not have to be taged. Guess I'll have to go with that. Haul that bad boy and if you get a ticket, go give it to the idiot at DMV that told you that it didn't need to be taged. PARTY!!!!!! ed __________________ Smoke On!!!!!! www.kickassbbq.com

11-29-2005, 09:12 AM	#14
Trout_man22 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 05-16-04 Location: Colonial Heights, Virginia Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Here in VA they'll give plates to anything with wheels that passes inspection, little red wagons, soap boxs, prams, $14 a year or $44 for the life of the trailer. __________________ Go Green use mercury laced low watt fluorescent bulbs and kill the earth slowly ! "God either exists or He doesn't.... I believe in God." Blaise Pascal I'm a sinner, I regret my sin and will try to never do it again.