My review of Lion v4

[woodpelletsmoker]

In V5 there will be auto-tuning scale of graphing

[ChrisH]

Will it be possible to do a firmware update from V4 to V5?

So does V4 autotune P,I and D values? I have never seen them change.

Thanks

[woodpelletsmoker]

No, V4 can not be upgraded.
You have to hand tune P,I,D. There is not autotune of P,I,D, in the LION.Smoker is just too complicated.

But in Elephant, outlet 80 -260 VAC, WIFI, dual probes, mainly designed for Sous Vide, P.I.D. can be autotuned

[ChrisH]

In a number of different threads you have mentioned that the Lion will 'learn' the pit. This means adjust PID values depending on the performance of the particular smoker. Are you now saying that this is not the case?

All other smoker controllers that I know of have a auto learn feature.

Thanks

[woodpelletsmoker]

Originally Posted by ChrisH

In a number of different threads you have mentioned that the Lion will 'learn' the pit. This means adjust PID values depending on the performance of the particular smoker. Are you now saying that this is not the case?

All other smoker controllers that I know of have a auto learn feature.

Thanks

please note difference betweem auto-tuning and auto-learning.
The PID controller is auto-learning. After a period of learning,the target will get closer and closer.
Auto-tuning refers to tuning value of P, I ,D. Optimastic data of P,I,D will SHORTEN auto-learning period, and swing away from target will be less.
DOG, WOLF, TIGER, LION are designed for stick smokers and do not have auto-tuning. You have to manually tuning P.I.D for best results. Default settings work too, but not at the best.
RHINO and Elephant are designed mainly for Sous Vide and have auto-tuning.
Rhino and Elephant can be used for stick smokers too if adding blower.
When Rhino and Elephant are used for stick smokers, I recommed not using auto-tuning function.

[bikerBBQ]

Originally Posted by woodpelletsmoker

In V5 there will be auto-tuning scale of graphing

When will Lion V5 be ready to ship?

[woodpelletsmoker]

Originally Posted by bikerBBQ

When will Lion V5 be ready to ship?

LION V5 shall be ready earlier April

[bikerBBQ]

Thanks! I'll watch for the availability and place an order.

[chiefsr]

Originally Posted by woodpelletsmoker

LION V5 shall be ready earlier April

What is the expected ship date of the Lion v5?

[woodpelletsmoker]

Originally Posted by chiefsr

What is the expected ship date of the Lion v5?

focusing on develop a remote monitor/controller for greenhouse.
BBQ controllers are all effected.
LION V5 is scheduled to be ready end of May

[chiefsr]

That's unfortunate, but being busy at your business is a good thing. I was looking forward to getting an order in for the next version of Lion.

[chiefsr]

I'm still in for Lion v5. It's too bad that it won't be possible to upgrade because I would get v4 now and upgrade later.

[Teltum]

I am excited for V5 I will start saving my $ for when it releases!

[chiefsr]

I quit waiting and ordered a Wolf. I would have liked to spend the extra cash on the gadgetry :-)

[woodpelletsmoker]

WIFI thermometer is going to be ready next Monday. You can use this WIFI thermometer with WOLF