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Unread 06-20-2012, 05:22 PM   #1
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Default Beef, Maillard Reaction, Baking Soda Experiment

A few weeks ago I posted a recipe I developed called "BlackHawk Brisket" for rubbing a hot and fast brisket with baking soda in order to achieve the best bark I could get while cooking hot and fast. The post is here - http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=135353 .

There is some good discussion in that thread about what led me to put baking soda on a brisket. In a nutshell, it boils down to a way to speed up the Maillard reaction. Raising the PH of food speeds up the Maillard reaction and baking soda raises PH levels. Until now, I never dug into how much baking soda I needed. I figured I didn't need much so, I used about 2 pinches (3 half pinches) on briskets.

The discussion in the post led to PitMaster T conducting an experiment using baking soda on fried onions. The results are here - http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=136179 .

Tonight, I decided to try the baking soda on grilled beef to see what results I would get.

I started with two choice ribeyes. I seasoned them with peanut oil, salt, pepper, and granulated garlic. One of them has a toothpick in it. That is the one with the baking soda on it. I used proportionally the same amount that I put on my BlackHawk brisket.



Here is a pic of the steaks after the flip. The one with the baking soda applied has a more even browning than the one without the baking soda.



Here is the finished pic. Clearly, the one with the baking soda is more evenly browned and slightly darker.



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Now, this single experiment doesn't prove that baking soda speeds up the Maillard process but it does indicate that more experimenting needs to be done.

Which is too bad. Now, I have to buy more steak to eat tomorrow. I don't know how I will break the news to my wife. "Dog on it, Dear, I just have to cook a few more steaks to get to the bottom of this baking soda thing. It's all in the name of food Science.
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Unread 06-20-2012, 05:24 PM   #2
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Fark. Now I have to get some ribeyes.

Farker.

But what must be done, must be done!

Or rare to medium rare anyway.
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I've used a tiny bit of baking soda for an extra crunch on chicarrones.

The ribeyes look perfectly cooked!
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This is not how I would have done it.

The open flames are not a controlled test.

I would have used the same steaks but did them on a flat grill on a lower temp than usual.
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This is not how I would have done it.

The open flames are not a controlled test.

I would have used the same steaks but did them on a flat grill on a lower temp than usual.
Oh, crap! Another reason to cook steak! Well, I gotta do what I gotta do.
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Why in the world do I come on here when I am hungry....?


Nice work!!!!
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Oh, crap! Another reason to cook steak! Well, I gotta do what I gotta do.

Yes and Bob Brisket needs to redo it because he has a discada.... we want to be sure its not the square or rectangular deck that contributed to MR
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Serious Eats has an interesting breakdown of Baking Soda and Baking Powder on baked buffalo wings to make them as good as fried.

http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/02/t...tml?ref=search
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