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Unread 04-30-2012, 09:24 PM   #1
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We just completed the Sams Club local here in SLC. The competition left many teams scratching their heads. At our event here in SLC scoring was very low and very inconsistent. It has been brought to question as to the judge selection process. First registered, first selected. Will the judge selection process be handled the same way for the regional qualifiers. I would hope there would be some sort of selection process as to assure the competing teams the best, most experienced judging possible.
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How does one select judges? Experience as the biggest factor?
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Judges register for the contests just as the teams do: On a first come, first served basis. Judges have to be CBJs in order to register, just as teams have to be KCBS members in order to register. Other than that, it is what it is.
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Will sort of get used to it...it isnt perfect but usually evens out.
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I think it would be kinda cool if the regionals at least tried to select judges from the locals which feed into them, and same with national. Might be hard to find judges willing to travel. Did I hear correctly that national is all MCBJs?

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I think it would be kinda cool if the regionals at least tried to select judges from the locals which feed into them, and same with national. Might be hard to find judges willing to travel. Did I hear correctly that national is all MCBJs?

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Last point first: Yes, the Nationals accepted only Master CBJs. As for the other contests, local as well as regional, it was for KCBS CBJs only on a first registered, first accepted basis. I managed to sign up for one in Texas and one in Oklahoma this year (Spring Break Road Trip!) while skipping my home-town comp in Des Moines, Iowa.

No matter where the judges come from, every team is going to be judged by the same pool at that contest no matter if the scores are high, low or in between.

These are only my answers - not those of KCBS or the BoD.
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I bet there are at least six teams that didn't think it was too bad.
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Ray Will is one of the six that made it. He is a new competitior that is very nice and a really good cook. Great family too.
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Sounds like all he needs is a little experience :)
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Well I Can say as a new team to the Region 1 area coming out of the Intermoutain Barbecue Association. It would be nice to know if my score was spot on my cooking. I did compete in this contest of question and some of My mentor teams one being who started this post. Makes me wonder Did I really learn anything or am I still off.. I had 7's and 8's across the board for most part and like five 6's overall I took 13th in Ribs and 27th overall. (Not last place hehee)
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From what I have seen and heard on this and other forum it look like the judging was all over the place. One team got 664 in chicken and the judge next to him gave that teams 999 in chicken.
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From what I have seen and heard on this and other forum it look like the judging was all over the place. One team got 664 in chicken and the judge next to him gave that teams 999 in chicken.
That would be an indication that one judge liked it and one didn't :)

But seriously the low score got thrown out. If two people give you a bad score that means that 33% didn't like it.

I'm not a fan of telling judges that they should all like the same thing every time.
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From what I have seen and heard on this and other forum it look like the judging was all over the place. One team got 664 in chicken and the judge next to him gave that teams 999 in chicken.
How do yo know it was a "him". You have to take into consideration the pool of judges that are at the contests that day. I don't like too sweet but the older lady sitting next to me might love it. Just sayin'
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I'm not complaining, It's hard to say, but I think we had a great cook and for the most part deserved what we recieved. Scores as a whole were lower for the teams participating at this event than others we been to. We are very new team, this was our 4th competition and we have alot to learn. I'm sure they arrange the judges at the tables to to try to even things out a bit as far as experience. I know it's very improtant to the event, officals, and judges to be fair and equitable in the scoring. I am glad to hear as the Sams Tour progresses the judge selection process does too.

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