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Old 03-29-2012, 07:17 PM   #1
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Default Let the midi UDS build begin!! [ongoing... with pr0n]

My drum is here!

I looked high and low for a 30gallon steel drum. Nothing was available in Houston. Drums available from one supplier locally would cost $120 . Next option was an hour way, ~$30 and it would be lined, brand new, so would have to be burned out. Used and/or reconditioned drums were available near Beaumont, San Antonio, and Dallas, all 3-4 hours away. Fark! Then I found one supplier, Zoro Tools (zorotools.com), selling a new, closed head, unlined, steel drum for $63 and free shipping. So, I jumped on it, and 5 days later my drum was delivered. Has the standard 2 bung top. Flipped it over, and the 18.5" Weber lid fit perfectly!

Now as I start my build, I have some questions which I need help with. I've read the UDS threads and tried to learn what I could:

1. Was planning on opening the top (what used to be the bottom) with a sawzall. I've done this sort of thing with an angle grinder and hammer/chisel before, but think the sawzall will give me a cleaner cut. Although the drum is new, I will fill it with water first to diaplace any vapors which may be lurking inside. My wife will kill me if I blow up the garage cutting this thing open.

Would anyone recommend any other method? Looked for a deheader, but that is expensive to cut one drum.

2. What should the spacing be between racks? The drum is almost 29.5" in height. I was planning on placing bolts to hold racks at (measuring from the top) 2", 7", and 14". Will the 7" level rack be good enough for beer butt chickens? The 14" will give me the option of using a water pan or clay saucer as a diffuser.

3. The charcoal basket will be 8" deep, expando sides, charcoal grate for an 18.5" Weber kettle will form the bottom. Was planning on raising it 3", with an ash pan underneath. Will that give enough clearance from the top of the charcoal basket to the grates (about 10.5" from the top of the basket to the second grate)?

I would like to put 4 all-terrain type handtruck wheels for mobility (I think Skidder did that for his UDS in a past thread). Using 1/2" nipples and ball valve for the intakes.

I have built 1 55gallon UDS, and a SJ mini WSM. I would love to hear your suggestions or tips.

Thanks!

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Old 03-29-2012, 07:27 PM   #2
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Congrats! And, I think that's a great deal on a new drum.

BTW - To post pron, click User CP in the left corner of the site under the line that indicates which forum/thread you are viewing. Look down the list on the left side of the screen for Pictures & Albums. Click it and from there you can create a picture album. Follow the prompts to upload pics. Once you upload and caption a pic, you can click on it and it will give you the code to use to post pics inline with text. The code will be something like

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Old 03-29-2012, 07:34 PM   #3
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Good deal man happy you got one:D

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Old 03-29-2012, 07:48 PM   #4
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Great price for a 30 gal drum. That number on the box is a Grainger part number and they list that drum for $129! (plus shipping)
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Congrats! And, I think that's a great deal on a new drum.

BTW - To post pron, click User CP in the left corner of the site under the line that indicates which forum/thread you are viewing. Look down the list on the left side of the screen for Pictures & Albums. Click it and from there you can create a picture album. Follow the prompts to upload pics. Once you upload and caption a pic, you can click on it and it will give you the code to use to post pics inline with text. The code will be something like

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Thanks for the tutorial. I'll try it out when I get more pics.


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Great price for a 30 gal drum. That number on the box is a Grainger part number and they list that drum for $129! (plus shipping)
J Pete: Yeah, I think Zoro is a reseller of some kind. New drums of this size cost double or more from manufacturers. An open head drum would have been ideal, but hey, for that price, delivered to my door, i'm happy with Zoro.
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:55 AM   #6
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went to Zoro web site, found the drum, it states a mild rust inhibator inside,,,what's that? will it have to be burned out and sanded or wire brushed?
still at very good price, 30 gal drums are very hard to find around me.....
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Old 03-30-2012, 02:22 AM   #7
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went to Zoro web site, found the drum, it states a mild rust inhibator inside,,,what's that? will it have to be burned out and sanded or wire brushed?
still at very good price, 30 gal drums are very hard to find around me.....
I can say for sure about this drum but I bought a drum that said that in the description. It was a thin urethane coating and was gone way before the outside paint on my initial burnout.
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:53 AM   #8
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I used an air chisel to dehead my drum. Mine has a smothe edge around as a result.

Good luck...please post pics...I know I need to!
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:06 AM   #9
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Can someone educate me about what an air chisel is??
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I can say for sure about this drum but I bought a drum that said that in the description. It was a thin urethane coating and was gone way before the outside paint on my initial burnout.
Thanks for the info. I'll let you know what it looks like when I open the drum up.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:05 PM   #11
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Couldn't get back to the build for some time, but I've made some progress in the last 2 days.

Used a sawzall ($25 from HF) to cut the bottom out (which is actually the top). Cut pretty easily. Then ground out the sharp edge/lip. Used a weed burner to burn out the light liner, which was some kind of polyurethane. It vaporized pretty quickly. I think I got the drum up to about 300°F or more - it was smoking but not red hot.





Made the charcoal basket out of a 2'x2' piece of expando from HD. The basket is too tall in my opinion - about 12" high. I will probably remake it to be 8" high as originally planned.








I'm having trouble trying to figure out what distance from the top of the drum (without the lid on) the racks should be at. Original plan was 2", 7", and 14" from the top, but I'm considering 3", 8" and 15" from the top of the drum instead. Any thoughts?

[Thanks to Boshizzle I can now intersperse pics with text. Now if I only knew how to resize pics, so i don't keep posting these ginormous ones...]
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:42 AM   #12
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Gotta love the mini's!
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The basket is too tall in my opinion - about 12" high. I will probably remake it to be 8" high as originally planned.
Maybe slide your grate up inside a bit before you cut it down.
That would save having to add legs for air clearance.

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Old 05-09-2012, 02:06 PM   #14
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Basket is Phine...from the looks of your pics mine is about the same dimensions.
If you think it's too tall you could always add less coals.
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Sweet! I'll have to check out Zoro.
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