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Old 03-18-2012, 11:40 PM   #31
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So that's how it works? Someone drops the ball and doesn't do their job and you just postpone the meeting until they decide to do what they're supposed to do? Must be nice...
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Old 03-19-2012, 12:00 AM   #32
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So that's how it works? Someone drops the ball and doesn't do their job and you just postpone the meeting until they decide to do what they're supposed to do? Must be nice...
Mike, the rule that the Board imposed upon itself is that the agenda has to be distributed to all board members 48 hours prior to the meeting beginning. There was an interest by some to continue and have the meeting anyway.

My contention is that we were sending a bad message to the membership if allowed our own rule for ourselves to be blown off for our own interests when teams and judges are expected to follow all of the rules at contests. It was the correct thing to do.
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:34 AM   #33
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Mike, the rule that the Board imposed upon itself is that the agenda has to be distributed to all board members 48 hours prior to the meeting beginning. There was an interest by some to continue and have the meeting anyway.

My contention is that we were sending a bad message to the membership if allowed our own rule for ourselves to be blown off for our own interests when teams and judges are expected to follow all of the rules at contests. It was the correct thing to do.
The thing to have done was to have followed the first rule you reference and get the agenda distributed as required. You specifically stated "the rule that the Board imposed upon itself is that the agenda has to be distributed to all board members 48 hours prior to the meeting beginning." This is not the first time this has happened. How about somebody following that rule? The correct thing to do would have been to get the agenda distributed as required by the rule.
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:42 AM   #34
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I thought I heard that one particular board member was going to be traveling on that day, asked to move it to make his life better, and the board agreed. Did I misunderstand? It's not that I think the board takes priority over personal/professional obligations, but conflicting stories make me wonder...

As an asside, is this something that could/should be automated? A board meeting gets scehduled. Board members get whatever they can on the agenda using a website, and 49 hours before it is supposed to start, the agenda is cut off and automatically eMailed out. No offense to any one out there, but I see humans as devices with a high rate of failure, and I try to eliminate them in processes that depend upon time or accuracy.

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Old 03-19-2012, 10:58 AM   #35
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The thing to have done was to have followed the first rule you reference and get the agenda distributed as required. You specifically stated "the rule that the Board imposed upon itself is that the agenda has to be distributed to all board members 48 hours prior to the meeting beginning." This is not the first time this has happened. How about somebody following that rule? The correct thing to do would have been to get the agenda distributed as required by the rule.
As always, these opinions are my own and not those of KCBS or anyone else on the board so...

Mark, I appreciate your comment but to be honest, while I agree, I cannot speak for anyone else on the board and who does their job in what manner. I can only speak for myself and how I accomplish my tasks that I am assigned. Things do happen (health, technology glitches, other personal issues, etc.) that from time to time might prohibit someone from meeting a deadline - happens in all facets of life. And when it does happen, you have to adjust and do the right thing. In this instance, the right thing was to postpone the meeting to a time when we all were available that was at least 48 hours after the agenda was published.

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I thought I heard that one particular board member was going to be traveling on that day, asked to move it to make his life better, and the board agreed. Did I misunderstand? It's not that I think the board takes priority over personal/professional obligations, but conflicting stories make me wonder...

As an asside, is this something that could/should be automated? A board meeting gets scehduled. Board members get whatever they can on the agenda using a website, and 49 hours before it is supposed to start, the agenda is cut off and automatically eMailed out. No offense to any one out there, but I see humans as devices with a high rate of failure, and I try to eliminate them in processes that depend upon time or accuracy.

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dmp, yes, that is a misunderstanding. No one was unavailable the day of the scheduled meeting. In trying to arrange the soonest possible day that we all were available, the following two days were not possible due to people having made prior plans or having other responsibilities. In regards to an automated agenda, that's an interesting idea to hear more about but not sure it would be workable because there is much need for "humanity" in these agendas. And in the instance this month, I suspect there is a good probability that our issue was a technological one as much as a human one.
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:06 PM   #36
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I confirm (not on behalf of KCBS or the board as a whole), that the above two posts reflect my view of the situation as well.
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:34 AM   #38
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Speaking solely for myself, not for KCBS or the board....

Me four. That information is not accurate.
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Speaking solely for myself, not for KCBS or the board....
You should have Phil make that your under title.
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Old 03-20-2012, 12:05 PM   #41
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On the positive side, as I look through the agenda I do notice the impact of several of the new Board members. To me it looks like they are trying to do what they said they were going to do, which is to make the Board more inclusive and more transparent. Reading between the lines (well, maybe just reading the lines themselves) I can also see there is already resistance. I’m confident the new folks are strong willed and determined, and I look forward to seeing the organization evolve. And I thank them for their service!

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Old 03-20-2012, 12:06 PM   #42
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Okay guys! I believed Jeff when he told me I was misunderstood. I concede that the agenda was the only issue and that every one was available. Please stop piling on.

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