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Old 02-03-2012, 11:50 PM   #1
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Default Sticky Sweet Candied BBQ.........How did we get here???

Been thinking about this lately. Just about everyone that I talk to says that they don't particularly care for BBQ the way they make it for comps.

This is my question. How did we end up with such a drastic difference between what the typical judge likes and what everyone else likes?
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:00 AM   #2
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Judges can only base their taste scores on what they have learned is good BBQ. Unfortunately most of them were raised on Kraft style sauces and this equates to good BBQ to them. Now this is my opinion and I'll probably get flamed but so be it
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:02 AM   #3
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Because the people who started competing in Q made the Q rules and made it so they would win by telling the judges what to like.

But seriously now, it's kind of like the oscars, the movie you pick to watch on any Friday night isn't usually going win best picture, but the committee picks a movie that makes it seem smart and educated because the members want o feel smarter and more in the know thane regular Joe.

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Old 02-04-2012, 12:31 AM   #4
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Because the people who started competing in Q made the Q rules and made it so they would win by telling the judges what to like. <br />
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But seriously now, it's kind of like the oscars, the movie you pick to watch on any Friday night isn't usually going win best picture, but the committee picks a movie that makes it seem smart and educated because the members want o feel smarter and more in the know thane regular Joe. <br />
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Terrible analogy-check<br />
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Whaaaaa??? They would NEVER tell people what kind of BBQ they should like............would they????
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:44 AM   #5
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I somewhat understand it, we have one bite . It has to something sweet , small kick to it with a wow factor. I don't think you will get that with let's say a dry rubbed rib. The dry rub rib might be good eats when you consume a half or full rack but as a single bite item woudnt. I love texas style brisket when I get a pile on butcher paper etc. But one bite of it being judges might seem bit plain
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Old 02-04-2012, 02:00 AM   #6
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I have wondered the same thing for a few years now, I also don't care for the chicken thighs all looking identical, it's just not normal, all chicken thighs are not the same
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:06 AM   #7
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Like Sledneck said, you have one or maybe 2 bites so you need to make that count with a lot of flavor up front. Of course if you made that for home, you wouldn't be able to eat too much.
As far as the sweet goes, almost everybody like sweet but fewer people like heat. Got to play the odds.
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:44 AM   #8
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I have wondered the same thing for a few years now, I also don't care for the chicken thighs all looking identical, it's just not normal, all chicken thighs are not the same
that is a whole different thread.......you ever read some of the judges comments on bbq-critic?

As for sweet I agree with Ray, sweet is better than heat
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As Sledneck and Ray said you only have one bite and most of us use the sweet to conteract the heat for what we hope is a bite that makes them want another
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As Sledneck and Ray said you only have one bite and most of us use the sweet to conteract the heat for what we hope is a bite that makes them want another
That makes sense. Balancing flavors is crucial, so it stands to reason that if you make one aspect more intense, then you have to do the same with the others too.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:07 PM   #11
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I turned in ribs once that were so salty I was sure we'd come in DAL. We came in 6th out of 32-34 teams.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:38 PM   #12
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Sled nailed it. You are trying to pack the biggest "wow" into a single bite.

The best way to answer the question is to make a meal out of comp meat, eating as much of that as you would "normal food".

I know that when I make a bunch of food at home, and eat until I am full, I might feel tired or something, but nothing too unusual. After judging a comp, I'm a bit out of sorts for the rest of the day, and I'm not any more full than a bbq feast at home.

I would not want to hear what sodium levels, etc, would be in comp meat compared to regular food. It's probably mind-numbing.
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Old 02-04-2012, 02:08 PM   #13
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I think with today's cooks all being very good and cooking very similar turn ins it's getting VERY close at the top. Judges just can't make great calls (IMO) after a few bites. The taste buds are so fouled up there is a real problem with scoring appropriately. Deciding between an 8 and a 9 might be easy at first but impossible after a few bites. To a cook the difference between an 8 or a 9 is HUGE!
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Old 02-04-2012, 02:46 PM   #14
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That sluggish feeling after judging is prob from a phosphate overdose!
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:01 PM   #15
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It's like my daughter says when she eats my competition chicken thighs... "this stuff is like BBQ butter...".

I certainly don't see us going around eating sticks of butter for everyday meals, but a half stick o' garlic butter with some fresh caught lobster is nice "NOW AND THEN".

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