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I have read several posts about sugar in rubs. While there are a lot of people who like and put sugar in their rubs, I have also read where some people do not like sugar in rubs at all. One of the main complaints I have read is that it burns when you are cooking. Sugar will burn at 220 degrees, so if you are cooking with a sugar rub and keep the temp under 220 this shouldn’t be an issue. So what am I missing? Are there other pros and cons to putting sugar in a rub that I am missing? Does a non-sugar rub just taste better? I guess I am just confused since I am a sugar rub user. Please educate me!
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I think that one of the main reasons people use sugar in the rub is to promote the formation of the bark that we like.
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I will use brown sugar at times, just to increase bark formation.
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I use brown sugar (still haven't tried the turbinado - it's sitting in the pantry waiting) in most of my rubs. Even on chicken when I cook at 275-300. Never had it burn.
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My take on sugar in a rub, from what I have read and my own experience is that sweet goes better with chicken and pork than it does with beef. I like a little sugar in my beef rub though as I think a little brings out more flavors. Depends on what you are cookin'.
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Rub and sauce are about balance, either where you cut the sugar way back leaves you too heavy in other areas.
White sugar works fine in most rubs we use low and slow but if you are going to take the pit temps towards 275º then using turbinado will help keep the sugars from scorching. You need sugar to offset salt and peppers in your rub and create the balance.
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I've got sort of an "all-purpose" rub I use on pork and brisket. I use white and brown sugar, and have never had a problem wilth burning. I use a lot of pepper (red and black) and paprika, so it balances nicely. I don't think I'd like it too much sans sugar.
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This begs the question: Is there any advantage (taste or otherwise, not the scorching) to using white sugar over Turbinado? If so, I can build rubs according to the cook temps. If not, I would be inclined just to use Turbinado at all temps. Thanks, TIM
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Turbinado is from the first pressing of the cane so there is a lot of molasses still in the sugar. Brown sugar still has molasses but the burn point os lower than turbinados.
If your building a rub and don't want molasses in the flavor print then white sugar will be your choice.
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For all my sugar additions in rubs....I use half brown sugar, half turbinado sugar. Nice sweet bark on brisket as well as shoulder. It's all about the bark, baby!
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If you normaly use 1 cup of white sugar and decide to substitute brown sugar or turbinado would the amount stay the same?
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I use the same amount with brown sugar but will increase turbinado because of the fact it is shaped like kosher salt and has more volume.
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I prefer to mix it up ahead, and look for that delicate mix of salty, heat, and sweet........
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