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Unread 11-06-2011, 05:01 PM   #1
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Need some input. I am looking to upgrade my smokers and looking at getting two 22.5. I was wondering I am using one for pork butts the other for briskets. Do you need to refuel during these long cooks? What kind of charcoal do you use? I was also thinking about getting gurus for both of them. Just want to know what everyones exp is with these. I know alot of teams use them for comps very popular. What about smoking when it is cold how do they do. Thanks everyone.
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You already know what I think .

Anytime you want to try out my 18 you are welcome to come get it for a few days. I do think I am going to end up ordering the BBQ Guru PartyQ in December unless I can afford to go ahead and get a 22.
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Yeah I was looking at that one.
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i need to refuel. usually after @ 6-7 hours. i cook @ 275. i use stubbs.

i stopped using the stoker this spring...so we'll see how they do in the cold.
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I had an 18 & then sold it to upgrade to the 22.
Using both, I never had to refuel.
I did, howerver, load that charcoal pan completley full. Nearly busting at the seams.

I use Kingsford Blue Bag.

I do mostly overnight cooks & I live in the Northwest (Seattle area), so I would say that it does fine in cold weather
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i need to refuel. usually after @ 6-7 hours. i cook @ 275. i use stubbs.

i stopped using the stoker this spring...so we'll see how they do in the cold.

Expensive. but could always get the Silver Bullet Insullated Jacket by BBQ Guru as another option

http://www.thebbqguru.com/products/2...er-Jacket.html
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I have the 18.5 and I have never had to refuel for anything when using a full load of Kingsford Blue. I have run it for over 16 hours on multiple occasions without touching the charcoal.
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I have the 18.5 and I have never had to refuel for anything when using a full load of Kingsford Blue. I have run it for over 16 hours on multiple occasions without touching the charcoal.
agreed, but i can keep my "kettle" at 500* for 3 hours or 275* for 6 with only like 25 briquettes.

point being, the 18 and 22 are very different animals.

it takes alot more BTU's to keep a 22 hot. it is quite a bit larger than an 18.
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You could also by the Cajun Bandit High Airflow Expanded Charcoal ring that will hold a full 22lb bag of BBKingsford.





just sayin'.

http://cajunbandit.com/wsm-parts-mods/
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You should be able to run for 16 hours on one load of lump or briquettes in the 22.5. I've never used one, but they are very similar in fuel efficiency to a UDS, and most UDS can go for 16-18 hours on one load of fuel.

Maybe it's a water pan issue, if using water in the pan, try foiling it with no water. I know a huge mass of water will suck BTUs. A pan full of sand will take longer to get to target temp, but will hold that temp, instead of fighting it.
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You could also by the Cajun Bandit High Airflow Expanded Charcoal ring that will hold a full 22lb bag of BBKingsford.





just sayin'.

http://cajunbandit.com/wsm-parts-mods/

I see Cajun Bandit has a "bundle deal" for $65 for the SS door and this ring - might be a very good combo deal !! I May consider placing an order.

Does this ring have higher walls or more/bigger holes (or both) ?

What do they mean by "eliminates problems of vent jamming w/ the original ring " ?
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I can get 12 hours plus easily all day everyday running it at 250-275F
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I see Cajun Bandit has a "bundle deal" for $65 for the SS door and this ring - might be a very good combo deal !! I May consider placing an order.

Does this ring have higher walls or more/bigger holes (or both) ?

What do they mean by "eliminates problems of vent jamming w/ the original ring " ?
If i remember correctly the high flow ring was because the vents on the original 22 were in a different location. I think they changed it. read it somewhere. Vinny you might want to go on over to the virtual webere bullet site and ask for a mod job there
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If i remember correctly the high flow ring was because the vents on the original 22 were in a different location. I think they changed it. read it somewhere. Vinny you might want to go on over to the virtual webere bullet site and ask for a mod job there
Looks like you're right.. not needed for new 22's.. The SS door though looks like an improvement and can be ordered separately.

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I think you get longer burns if you use no water and a clay pot bottum as your heat sink.
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