Rules questions

speedrcer1 · 10-25-2011, 07:59 PM

Hi,
2 questions.
(during competition)
1. While cooking on a WSM, if you take the cooking chamber off the bottom section, moving meat off the heating source, are you allowed to assist lighting new coals with propane or other heating source prohibited while the meat is on.

2. If you where inclined to use cheese in your sauce, in solid form, is this allowed? Heard of a DQ because of this.

Thanks!

Jeff_in_KC · 10-25-2011, 11:55 PM

I'm taking a stab at the first one - I would think once you put the meat on, you're asking for trouble if you use any type of "assistance", even if it is removed by taking off the middle section of the WSM. So how is the rule meant to be interpreted? Rules say propane or electric is permitted as fire starters as long as the competition meat is not in/on the cooking device. But does that mean you can take it all out once you've started and continue to use propane to relight coals and then put it back on? Or is it once the meat is in/on the cooker, propane is prohibited under any circumstances? I'd want clarification before you tried it and if you're using propane to light coals on a smoker other teams have seen going all night, you're probably asking for a face to face with the rep to explain yourself. I think I'd avoid it regardless. As for the cheese in your sauce, I believe you'd just need to make sure the pieces were smaller than 1/8 inch. The rules only refer to "chunky sauce" and do not define what chunks can be made up of.

speedrcer1 · 10-26-2011, 06:52 AM

Thanks Jeff. I've never tried heating coals mid cook this way, but this is why I ask before I ever try. Cause I might want to.

Funtimebbq · 10-26-2011, 07:47 AM

You're better off using a chimney charcoal starter to light the new coals then taking the center section off to reload. That way, there is no question about using an outside heat source. You will probably not have the meat off of the heat as long also.
If you want to do it the way you posted, ask the contest rep at the cook's meeting for an answer. Ask at every contest because you may get different answers depending on the rep.

Good luck, Benny

Candy Sue · 10-27-2011, 09:00 AM

My opinion -- if the WSM is in pieces for whatever reason -- the meat's not on the cooker because the cooker is disassembled.

On number 2, cheese melted into sauce is simply a sauce ingredient. If it's larger than the dice requirement, it would be illegal because of the size not because it's cheese.

Again, these are my opinions only and do not reflect an interpretation of the board or KCBS.

10-25-2011, 07:59 PM	#1
speedrcer1 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 01-02-10 Location: Massapequa, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Rules questions Hi, 2 questions. (during competition) 1. While cooking on a WSM, if you take the cooking chamber off the bottom section, moving meat off the heating source, are you allowed to assist lighting new coals with propane or other heating source prohibited while the meat is on. 2. If you where inclined to use cheese in your sauce, in solid form, is this allowed? Heard of a DQ because of this. Thanks! __________________ Don G Weber WSM 22.5 Weber WSM 18 CL Find Bubba-Keg “on-loan” Char-Griller OS, Gasser, Weber 22.5 Platinum CL find Weber 22.5 Gold CL find w, SMOKE-EZ conversion KCBS 54236, Certified KCBS judge Certified MOINK Baller Super-Fast, Super-Non Stealthy ORANGE Themapen

10-25-2011, 11:55 PM	#2
Jeff_in_KC somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-04-05 Location: Pleasant Hill, MO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm taking a stab at the first one - I would think once you put the meat on, you're asking for trouble if you use any type of "assistance", even if it is removed by taking off the middle section of the WSM. So how is the rule meant to be interpreted? Rules say propane or electric is permitted as fire starters as long as the competition meat is not in/on the cooking device. But does that mean you can take it all out once you've started and continue to use propane to relight coals and then put it back on? Or is it once the meat is in/on the cooker, propane is prohibited under any circumstances? I'd want clarification before you tried it and if you're using propane to light coals on a smoker other teams have seen going all night, you're probably asking for a face to face with the rep to explain yourself. I think I'd avoid it regardless. As for the cheese in your sauce, I believe you'd just need to make sure the pieces were smaller than 1/8 inch. The rules only refer to "chunky sauce" and do not define what chunks can be made up of. __________________ Big Creek BBQ Competition Team KCBS Member and CBJ #14287 Contest Organizer - Smokin' on Big Creek Co-Founder and Executive Director Operation BBQ Relief, Inc. Visit us at Operation BBQ Relief dot org

10-26-2011, 06:52 AM	#3
speedrcer1 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 01-02-10 Location: Massapequa, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks Jeff. I've never tried heating coals mid cook this way, but this is why I ask before I ever try. Cause I might want to. __________________ Don G Weber WSM 22.5 Weber WSM 18 CL Find Bubba-Keg “on-loan” Char-Griller OS, Gasser, Weber 22.5 Platinum CL find Weber 22.5 Gold CL find w, SMOKE-EZ conversion KCBS 54236, Certified KCBS judge Certified MOINK Baller Super-Fast, Super-Non Stealthy ORANGE Themapen

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10-26-2011, 07:47 AM	#4
Funtimebbq Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 11-19-09 Location: Whittier, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You're better off using a chimney charcoal starter to light the new coals then taking the center section off to reload. That way, there is no question about using an outside heat source. You will probably not have the meat off of the heat as long also. If you want to do it the way you posted, ask the contest rep at the cook's meeting for an answer. Ask at every contest because you may get different answers depending on the rep. Good luck, Benny

10-27-2011, 09:00 AM	#5
Candy Sue Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 09-03-09 Location: Pine Bluff, AR Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My opinion -- if the WSM is in pieces for whatever reason -- the meat's not on the cooker because the cooker is disassembled. On number 2, cheese melted into sauce is simply a sauce ingredient. If it's larger than the dice requirement, it would be illegal because of the size not because it's cheese. Again, these are my opinions only and do not reflect an interpretation of the board or KCBS.