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Unread 10-24-2011, 08:55 PM   #46
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Hey, I just watched your video and got answers to my questions. Sounds like you have many of the same believes and desires for KCBS as many of us.
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Unread 10-25-2011, 09:06 AM   #47
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For someone new to this whole forum society I should have known better. It appears that there are experts here that will forget more than I know.
I posted an introduction days ago and there weren't many views and that would explain why most people don't know about me.
It doesn't seem important that I have a background in sportsmedicine, worked for the Chicago Cubs and Denver Broncos, owned a small manufacturing business that sold product in the major big box home improvement stores, the fact that I teach classes in Homeland Security with an emphasis on improvised explosive devices and command and control, or the fact that I am a member of the DMAT team, a Master Mason with the Masonic Lodge and I am currently a pharmaceutical researcher.
To me if I heard that about another candidate, I would still want to know
about their BBQ passion and what they can bring to the table in terms of KCBS. I would have no problem using my network to help the KCBS any way I could but that is secondary to remedying other issues.
I want people to know me but if anyone told me about their amazing life experiences that I have shared I would look at them as a showboater and that's not my goal. I am BJ Hoffman, father to an 8 year old that loves bbq, a husband to a woman that supports my hobbys and interests, and someone that wants to better the KCBS through listening to members rather than making statements of what is going to be done. Give me a chance to learn this forum society...
You may have done better if you would have shared some of your business acumen also. Unfortunately, love of BBQ does not make someone a good leader or manager. Lets face it, the KCBS is a not for profit business. IMHO we need people with good business experience that love BBQ. It's not all about mom and apple pie. The KCBS is a business that needs to be run by competent people.
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Unread 10-25-2011, 09:48 AM   #48
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I appreciate your advice. I guess I believed that my professional life wasn't that important.
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Unread 10-25-2011, 10:35 AM   #49
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No BJ the opposite would be true
Ones "Love of BBQ" is not a reason to vote someone on to the BoD
Love of BBQ could mean one thing to you and something altogether different to another
Who you is matters
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Unread 10-25-2011, 12:18 PM   #50
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"I have a background in sportsmedicine, worked for the Chicago Cubs and Denver Broncos, owned a small manufacturing business that sold product in the major big box home improvement stores, the fact that I teach classes in Homeland Security with an emphasis on improvised explosive devices and command and control, or the fact that I am a member of the DMAT team, a Master Mason with the Masonic Lodge and I am currently a pharmaceutical researcher."


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Unread 10-25-2011, 03:24 PM   #51
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"I have a background in sportsmedicine, worked for the Chicago Cubs and Denver Broncos, owned a small manufacturing business that sold product in the major big box home improvement stores, the fact that I teach classes in Homeland Security with an emphasis on improvised explosive devices and command and control, or the fact that I am a member of the DMAT team, a Master Mason with the Masonic Lodge and I am currently a pharmaceutical researcher."


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Thanks! I have lived a very amazing life with a great deal of cool experiences. Those experiences have kept things interesting and has allowed me to network with people that others would kill to know.
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Unread 10-25-2011, 06:26 PM   #52
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Thanks for the advice Sawdust. I'm not a political kind of guy. I didn't realize that this was political in nature. From the other posts and from the messages I got , I was told and understood that the KCBS wasn't meant to be a political outlet like other organizations are. If you are saying the KCBS has the same characteristics as a political organization I would say you are wrong.
People keeping their mouths shut is a not a good trait for someone running for BOD. I believe that the KCBS needs outspoken, well educated, compasionate, and enthusiastic people, all traits I have. I deal with arrogant, snobby, uptight doctors, drug manufactuers, and patients everyday in order to do my job the best I can, the KCBS BOD would be pleasant compared to my daily excitement.
I am sorry for rubbing you the wrong way and hope you see I am on your side.
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Unread 10-25-2011, 11:46 PM   #53
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Yeah, I'm just going to stay on the sidelines for this debate! BJ, best of luck to you in the election. Denver Broncos, huh? That's my team... and I'll still admit it!

One thing did catch my attention above though... you said you aren't a very political guy - I hope you realize that even though this is barbecue, there are politics involved. Even it it's just trying to help facilitate a change to better transparency by the board, there is a political aspect to it. It's the "politics as usual" thing that has to go. And from what I've been seen, there is stress involved. I hope you're looking at this from all angles, including your own health.
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Unread 10-26-2011, 12:05 AM   #54
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Jeff, thanks for the advice. I realize that there are politics involved with the KCBS. Shoot, there are politics in churches, schools, my Masonic Lodge, and around almost every corner in life.
It is very unfortunate that it is that way. The people kind enough to PM me to say they support me and my platform would say that less politicing in the KCBS would help get the organization back to what it was meant to be, and I agree. Even in the election process I have heard some candidates will spend a fair amount of hard earned money to be elected, and that suprised me but, thats ok if you can do that. Having started in bbq around some of bbq's forefathers and taking interest in the KCBS years ago the KCBS of years past is gone. There were good changes and then there have been some things have been overlooked, passed by, or forgotten that need to be resurected to insure a bright future for the KCBS so people like my boy, and other kids and grandkids can enjoy KCBS and BBQ as much as I do.
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Unread 10-26-2011, 12:19 AM   #55
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Jeff, thanks for the advice. I realize that there are politics involved with the KCBS. Shoot, there are politics in churches, schools, my Masonic Lodge, and around almost every corner in life.
It is very unfortunate that it is that way. The people kind enough to PM me to say they support me and my platform would say that less politicing in the KCBS would help get the organization back to what it was meant to be, and I agree. Even in the election process I have heard some candidates will spend a fair amount of hard earned money to be elected, and that suprised me but, thats ok if you can do that. Having started in bbq around some of bbq's forefathers and taking interest in the KCBS years ago the KCBS of years past is gone. There were good changes and then there have been some things have been overlooked, passed by, or forgotten that need to be resurected to insure a bright future for the KCBS so people like my boy, and other kids and grandkids can enjoy KCBS and BBQ as much as I do.
Yep, I'll probably spend around $40 by the time it's all over! I think the word "politics" itself has gotten a bad rap due in part to the politicians who abuse their powers and pull stunts that ought to get them canned and would in the real world.

Webster defines politics as "the science of government; that part of ethics which consists in the regulation and government of a nation or state, for the preservation of its safety, peace and prosperity; comprehending the defense of its existence and rights against foreign control or conquest, the augmentation of its strength and resources, and the protection of its citizens in their rights, with the preservation and improvement of their morals. Politics, as a science or an art, is a subject of vast extent and importance."

Nothing dirty, underhanded or anything else there. I think we've gotten WAY away from the real meaning of the word to the point of believing it is a bad thing. Not so much if you look at it the way it's supposed to be. This is what myself, Steve, George and Dave all want to do - preserve and protect KCBS as it should be for members, not as a group of people in it for their own benefit believe it should be.
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Unread 10-26-2011, 12:35 AM   #56
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Jeff, thanks for the advice. I realize that there are politics involved with the KCBS. Shoot, there are politics in churches, schools, my Masonic Lodge, and around almost every corner in life.
It is very unfortunate that it is that way. The people kind enough to PM me to say they support me and my platform would say that less politicing in the KCBS would help get the organization back to what it was meant to be, and I agree. Even in the election process I have heard some candidates will spend a fair amount of hard earned money to be elected, and that suprised me but, thats ok if you can do that. Having started in bbq around some of bbq's forefathers and taking interest in the KCBS years ago the KCBS of years past is gone. There were good changes and then there have been some things have been overlooked, passed by, or forgotten that need to be resurected to insure a bright future for the KCBS so people like my boy, and other kids and grandkids can enjoy KCBS and BBQ as much as I do.
What exactly needs to be resurrected? I'm still trying to figure out your platform.
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First of all, the KCBS used to have a much larger local presence. The local presence helped get people involved and the greater the involvement the better they were able to work towards the KCBS mission.
Second, it is obvious that KCBS has gotten very large in a fairly short time and with growth accomodations for the membership during growth hasn't kept pace.
As for the rest of my platform please check out my video in which I discuss the entire premise. It can be found at: http://www.facebook.com/pages/BJ-Hof...89380814423633

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Unread 10-26-2011, 11:34 AM   #58
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Yep, I'll probably spend around $40 by the time it's all over! I think the word "politics" itself has gotten a bad rap due in part to the politicians who abuse their powers and pull stunts that ought to get them canned and would in the real world.

Webster defines politics as "the science of government; that part of ethics which consists in the regulation and government of a nation or state, for the preservation of its safety, peace and prosperity; comprehending the defense of its existence and rights against foreign control or conquest, the augmentation of its strength and resources, and the protection of its citizens in their rights, with the preservation and improvement of their morals. Politics, as a science or an art, is a subject of vast extent and importance."

Nothing dirty, underhanded or anything else there. I think we've gotten WAY away from the real meaning of the word to the point of believing it is a bad thing. Not so much if you look at it the way it's supposed to be. This is what myself, Steve, George and Dave all want to do - preserve and protect KCBS as it should be for members, not as a group of people in it for their own benefit believe it should be.
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Well, one thing this thread highlights is the really difficult job any board member faces. We can't even get a small group of Brethren particpants in this thread to agree what was really being said. Multiply that by the thousands of people in KCBS, and think about the challenge the board has in being clear in what they say and do.
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Mod Note: Thread has been scrubbed again of both off topic chatter as well as unrelated posts about forum etiquette... Appreciate all the help but the mods will be the arbiters of what is allowable or not

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