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Unread 09-18-2011, 10:57 AM   #1
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I'm new to competition BBQ and just did my 4th non sanctioned contest. I have been doing pretty well and feeling good about myself, starting to think about jumping in with you big boys and try a KCBS. Yesterday did a a contest and got my Ribs slapped down and I really thought they were right on, but got 6th. The part that hurt was there was only 9 teams on a rainy Saturday. Pork steaks got 3rd and I won $25.00 to take a little of the sting away. Thinking I might not be ready to play with you big boys yet.
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You can have a bad day at any level. Your ribs just didn't excite the judges yesterday. It's one comp. Don't let it discourage you.
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Check out the thread "And God said.....". It happens at every level. There's ups, and
there's downs. Even the ulta-consistent big competitors have bad outings (last time I went against Jack's Old South they were largely middle-of-the-pack or lower in everything).

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Same thing happened to me this weekend. My brisket was so perfect I didn't even want to turn it in, prolly my best in the past 6 months. And it's been near the top the last 8 contests, in 3 different states: 3, 1, 4, 2, 6, 3, 4, 4. Knuckle-headed judges panned it this weekend, scoring it 16th out of 31. Gimme a break.
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Here are my random thoughts, not particularly related to each other:

A blind box isn't personal; the product is what it is, the scores are what they are. We all get wonky scores, and you can't let it get to you unless a particular product scores poorly over time.

It's possible that you might be better off in a KCBS-sanctioned show, with a good percentage of experienced CBJs. At the very least, you get detailed feedback in the form of your raw scores, showing exactly where improvement could be needed.

And even when you improve, improvement isn't linear. All hot streaks end, you'll fix one meat that was giving you fits and just when it's behaving, another one will go south on you!

I guess that's what keeps us coming back week after week.
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> It's possible that you might be better off in a KCBS-sanctioned show, with a good percentage of experienced CBJs. At the very least, you get detailed feedback in the form of your raw scores, showing exactly where improvement could be needed.

I agree. Any sanctioning body with a high percentage of CBJ's is going to have less "willy nilly" scores going on. Unsanctioned, all bets are off. You could very well do much better.
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Don't sweat the small stuff...and it's ALL small stuff! Judges are judges...sometimes they like your stuff...sometimes they don't...just have fun! We had 3 first place walks and one 11th place walk and came in 4th overall...go figure!
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Thanks everyone for the encouragement. You guys may be right about doing sanctioned contests for the standards in judging. I still had a lot of fun, and met some great people. Just hurt a little since I had been doing so well. Reading jbrink post maybe it was just people from Franklin County Mo. that were not going to score well yesterday.LOL I'm not thinking of quitting can't wait to get back out there.
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I am no expert at anything, bbq is bbq.
I have turned in stuff that I thought was awesome, got my lunch handed to me.
I have turned in things that I thought were embaresing..sp? and did very well.

Comp's to me are just hanging out with your friends new and old. It is like another backyard practice. View it as another training session. Just have fun.
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...my 4th non sanctioned contest ..... Pork steaks got 3rd.
This is another problem with a comp like that one - the judges are trying to compare not only one entry to another (not happening in KCBS ) they're comparing different types of meat . Does the term "apples & oranges" come to mind? In a sanctioned comp it's ribs vs ribs, butts vs butts, etc - more of a level playing field.
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As others have said I wouldnt worry too much if one of your scores were not where you expected. I had one non sanctioned contest where I scored 15th out of 16, and I honestly thought it was one of my best pork turn ins ever. So at the next contest I did, I used the exact same recipe and scored10th out of 66. You just never know what a judge is looking for.
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Geez, don't let a bad finish stop you. We all take our lumps occassionally. You have to just suck it up, congratulate the winners and get em next time! Jump in to a KCBS comp.
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Keep on going - push through this rough patch and be grateful for everything that you enjoy about competing - and don't worry about competing in KCBS - I've only ever competed in KCBS and I've never considered myself a 'big boy'. I just love cooking and this is one more way that I get to do that . . .

Plus, hey, somebody has to fill in the bottom rungs so that the great teams can win!
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- and don't worry about competing in KCBS - I've only ever competed in KCBS and I've never considered myself a 'big boy'. I just love cooking and this is one more way that I get to do that . . .

Plus, hey, somebody has to fill in the bottom rungs so that the great teams can win!
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^^^^^ This.

I've competed in some other organizations but I started with the "big boys" and don't plan on digressing. I like to cook and compete and this checks both those boxes and I can walk or be DAL on any given cook day!
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I could try to put a positive spin on the St. Peters Quetopia contest this past weekend but I won't. The weather was marginal at best and with the exception of chicken, the judges thought we sucked. I didn't, but that's not really important. We will be at it again this coming weekend and the 2 following.

Our very first contest was in 2005, a 75 team KCBS event IN Kansas City. Dive in, the water's fine.
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