true cost of a competition

boogiesnap · 08-17-2011, 01:36 PM

how much is the actual cost of putting on a 30-50 team contest?
stuff like porta potties, water, gift bags, trophies, security, permits, etc etc.

i imagine it varies region to region, but what's a ballpark figure?

Sledneck · 08-17-2011, 04:32 PM

10k - 15k

goodsmokebbq · 08-17-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sledneck

10k - 15k

Before prize money...

Sledneck · 08-17-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by goodsmokebbq

Before prize money...

Yep...

boogiesnap · 08-17-2011, 07:08 PM

holy fark!!!

really?

we are an expensive bunch to invite over.

breakdown of cost?

Rocco05 · 08-17-2011, 07:32 PM

Thank God there are folks out there that can put that kind of money up, so that folks like us can compete.

pigmaker23 · 08-17-2011, 11:12 PM

Contest like norwalk, 30-40K

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Originally Posted by Sledneck

10k - 15k

Jeff_in_KC · 08-17-2011, 11:16 PM

Our total expenses run about $4000 max. That does not include prize purse.

BBQchef33 · 08-18-2011, 12:00 AM

Smokin at the Maples.

43 teams
10K prize pool.... all entry fees minus about 15$ per team towards KCBS fees and a few comped teams.

Expenses.... about 9K.

off the top of my head..
Trophies
potties
golf cartS (<<< YOU WILL NEED THIS), AT LEAST 2, 3 IS BETTER.
Generator and fuel for generator
Event insurance $400/2 DAYS
band
kcbs Fees <<<< OUCH
Team breakfast
vending
VIP/Volunteer meals/tent supplies

KCBS now also requires the names of onsite security, so u may be hiring a rent a cop.

Brewer · 08-18-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BBQchef33

Smokin at the Maples.

43 teams
10K prize pool.... all entry fees minus about 15$ per team towards KCBS fees and a few comped teams.

Expenses.... about 9K.

off the top of my head..
Trophies
potties
golf cartS (<<< YOU WILL NEED THIS), AT LEAST 2, 3 IS BETTER.
Generator and fuel for generator
Event insurance $400/2 DAYS
band
kcbs Fees <<<< OUCH
Team breakfast
vending
VIP/Volunteer meals/tent supplies

KCBS now also requires the names of onsite security, so u may be hiring a rent a cop.

Damn... you guys get golf carts, generator power and a team breakfast.... Our comps offer public crappers, questionable power and you'd be lucky if someone walked over to your space to throw a few biscuits at you in the morning...

I can't imagine they cost more than $3-4K to host in the Pacific Northwest.

hankf19 · 08-18-2011, 12:24 AM

In California:

MArketing - $2,000
Health Dept *assuming 50% PC* off a 50 team field - $1,750
Police- $1,500
County Fire Permit- $1,200
Band- $600
Stage, Tents, Chairs, Electricity, Tables, - $6,000
Merchant fees on CC transactions - $500
Banners, Flyers, tickets and other printing - $1,200
Rent of facility (Most)+/- $1,000 (some as high as $7,000 for 1 day event)
Trash pickup and containers- $1,000
KCBS sanctioning, reps reinbursement for hotel and travel + $12 per team = $1,200+
PC materials, 2oz cups, napkins, forks, boats, etc.. $450
Beer Garden fencing and setup + permits and product- $500
City permits- $100
Misc- $3,000

So between $20,000 and $30,000 BEFORE Prize $$$....I've done one that cost me north of $40,000 (without prize money)... and a simple ribfest backyarder with $2,500 in prize $$ (12 teams showed up) that cost me only $11,876 and brought in $13,125 thanks to $5,000 in sponsors...

hankf19 · 08-18-2011, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hankf19

In California:

MArketing - $2,000
Health Dept *assuming 50% PC* off a 50 team field - $1,750
Police- $1,500
County Fire Permit- $1,200
Band- $600
Stage, Tents, Chairs, Electricity, Tables, - $6,000
Merchant fees on CC transactions - $500
Banners, Flyers, tickets and other printing - $1,200
Rent of facility (Most)+/- $1,000 (some as high as $7,000 for 1 day event)
Trash pickup and containers- $1,000
KCBS sanctioning, reps reinbursement for hotel and travel + $12 per team = $1,200+
PC materials, 2oz cups, napkins, forks, boats, etc.. $450
Beer Garden fencing and setup + permits and product- $500
City permits- $100
Misc- $3,000

So between $20,000 and $30,000 BEFORE Prize $$$....I've done one that cost me north of $40,000 (without prize money)... and a simple ribfest backyarder with $2,500 in prize $$ (12 teams showed up) that cost me only $11,876 and brought in $13,125 thanks to $5,000 in sponsors...

Oh forgot Trophies $1,500 -- this one I've notice teams really don't care about these, and many a team has told me so... I did my last contest with only $1,000 budget here, and I can go as far as $750 (still giving trophies through 10th place) in all 4 meats + GC and RGC and 1st-3rd in 1 or 2 additional categories... With a combo of trophies that still look great.

hankf19 · 08-18-2011, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hankf19

Oh forgot Trophies $1,500 -- this one I've notice teams really don't care about these, and many a team has told me so... I did my last contest with only $1,000 budget here, and I can go as far as $750 (still giving trophies through 10th place) in all 4 meats + GC and RGC and 1st-3rd in 1 or 2 additional categories... With a combo of trophies that still look great.

Oo[s forgot Insurance - $500 and Porta Poties - usually 10 with 1 ADA, 1 Gray water tank (250gallons) and a few wash stations- $700.

CBQ · 08-18-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hankf19

Oh forgot Trophies $1,500 -- this one I've notice teams really don't care about these, and many a team has told me so...

Really? We love getting little plastic animals.

Some contests also make custom themed trophies up here...Saratoga, Mainely, Lexington...cool stuff.

boogiesnap · 08-18-2011, 10:24 AM

those lexington 1st place trophies were farkin awesome.

08-17-2011, 01:36 PM	#1
boogiesnap Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-22-10 Location: NEW ENGLAND Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	true cost of a competition how much is the actual cost of putting on a 30-50 team contest? stuff like porta potties, water, gift bags, trophies, security, permits, etc etc. i imagine it varies region to region, but what's a ballpark figure? __________________ S'mo Q Competition BBQ Team Q so good you gotta have s'mo. Sponsored by Oakridge BBQ twin WSM 22.5's 48" DCS gasser certified MOINK baller farkanaut in training avatar by grillman CLICK HERE to visit the BBQ Brethren Throwdowns

08-17-2011, 04:32 PM	#2
Sledneck is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-04-05 Location: Wantagh, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	10k - 15k __________________ BBQ Illuminati Blog Disclaimer: The poster does not take any responsibility for any bad feelings or sense of exclusion that the reader of this post may have-whether real or imagined. Reading threads poses inherent risks. The poster of this thread would like to also remind readers to make sure they have a functional sense of humor before they visit any discussion board.

08-17-2011, 07:08 PM	#5
boogiesnap Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-22-10 Location: NEW ENGLAND Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	holy fark!!! really? we are an expensive bunch to invite over. breakdown of cost? __________________ S'mo Q Competition BBQ Team Q so good you gotta have s'mo. Sponsored by Oakridge BBQ twin WSM 22.5's 48" DCS gasser certified MOINK baller farkanaut in training avatar by grillman CLICK HERE to visit the BBQ Brethren Throwdowns

08-17-2011, 11:16 PM	#8
Jeff_in_KC somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-04-05 Location: Pleasant Hill, MO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Our total expenses run about $4000 max. That does not include prize purse. __________________ Big Creek BBQ Competition Team KCBS Member and CBJ #14287 Contest Organizer - Smokin' on Big Creek Co-Founder and Executive Director Operation BBQ Relief, Inc. Visit us at Operation BBQ Relief dot org

08-18-2011, 12:00 AM	#9
BBQchef33 Grand Poobah and Site Admin Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Long Island, NY Downloads: 10 Uploads: 4	Smokin at the Maples. 43 teams 10K prize pool.... all entry fees minus about 15$ per team towards KCBS fees and a few comped teams. Expenses.... about 9K. off the top of my head.. Trophies potties golf cartS (<<< YOU WILL NEED THIS), AT LEAST 2, 3 IS BETTER. Generator and fuel for generator Event insurance $400/2 DAYS band kcbs Fees <<<< OUCH Team breakfast vending VIP/Volunteer meals/tent supplies KCBS now also requires the names of onsite security, so u may be hiring a rent a cop. __________________ Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Klose built MoAB (Mother of All Banderas) passed on to Big Dog, 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 1 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 1 Pit Barrel Cooker, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM

08-17-2011, 07:32 PM	#6
Rocco05 Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 06-09-11 Location: Elmira,NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thank God there are folks out there that can put that kind of money up, so that folks like us can compete.

08-18-2011, 12:24 AM	#11
hankf19 Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 12-07-10 Location: Wildomar, California Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In California: MArketing - $2,000 Health Dept assuming 50% PC off a 50 team field - $1,750 Police- $1,500 County Fire Permit- $1,200 Band- $600 Stage, Tents, Chairs, Electricity, Tables, - $6,000 Merchant fees on CC transactions - $500 Banners, Flyers, tickets and other printing - $1,200 Rent of facility (Most)+/- $1,000 (some as high as $7,000 for 1 day event) Trash pickup and containers- $1,000 KCBS sanctioning, reps reinbursement for hotel and travel + $12 per team = $1,200+ PC materials, 2oz cups, napkins, forks, boats, etc.. $450 Beer Garden fencing and setup + permits and product- $500 City permits- $100 Misc- $3,000 So between $20,000 and $30,000 BEFORE Prize $$$....I've done one that cost me north of $40,000 (without prize money)... and a simple ribfest backyarder with $2,500 in prize $$ (12 teams showed up) that cost me only $11,876 and brought in $13,125 thanks to $5,000 in sponsors...

08-18-2011, 10:24 AM	#15
boogiesnap Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-22-10 Location: NEW ENGLAND Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	those lexington 1st place trophies were farkin awesome. __________________ S'mo Q Competition BBQ Team Q so good you gotta have s'mo. Sponsored by Oakridge BBQ twin WSM 22.5's 48" DCS gasser certified MOINK baller farkanaut in training avatar by grillman CLICK HERE to visit the BBQ Brethren Throwdowns

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