Comps on Federal Property??

Matt_A · 07-29-2011, 05:37 PM

Does anybody here have any experience with competitions held on Federal property? If so, I'd like some input on what sort of headaches I could be facing?

caseydog · 07-29-2011, 06:12 PM

I've not done any BBQ events, but I have done car shows, and I have found that the easiest people to deal with are smaller cities. Here in Dallas, I have worked with some of the suburban cities, and they have been pretty easy to deal with. Not all of them, but some. The ones that "get it" tend to be happy to help you out.

The problem I have encountered with state properties is that I am dealing with people 200 miles away who really don't care about what my event can do for the communities I want to set up in. On the other hand, local officials DO care about what the event could do for local business and community interests.

I haven't tried to deal with federal properties. I just assumed that it would be even worse than state properties.

Basically, city officials will sit down with me and hear what I have to say, and judge the event on it's merits. The higher you go on the government totem pole, the less interested they seem to be in the merits.

Private property can also be hard to secure for an event, as they are only interested in making money. And, they want to be guaranteed an income from the use of their property, even if it is an empty lot they've been trying to sell for 20 years. They see their property as being worth about 20 times more than it really is, and expect to get paid way too much for it's use.

That's just my experience.

Matt_A · 07-29-2011, 06:41 PM

I've got a backup plan to try and get it at our county fairgrounds. There's also a small town just south of Norman, OK by the name of Noble. They have a big festival there in May which I wouldn't want to try to join with a comp. But they might be interested in having a sanctioned comp later in the year. I considered my hometown of Moore, and I still have to verify this, I believe that the city doesn't allow any alcoholic beverages on city property. Like I said, gotta check on that to be sure.

timzcardz · 07-29-2011, 06:46 PM

Contact Smokin Turkey on here. I think the contest that he does in PA is in a Fed Park.

Matt_A · 07-29-2011, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timzcardz

Contact Smokin Turkey on here. I think the contest that he does in PA is in a Fed Park.

I will.

U2CANQUE · 07-29-2011, 07:23 PM

There used to be a contest at Fort Leavenworth....so, it is possible, not sure of the guidelines

Andrews · 07-29-2011, 07:42 PM

It was a few years back but, I think Thom Emery put on a BBQ contest on a base in Seal Beach , CA.

Sunburst is the name that comes to mind.

Matt_A · 07-29-2011, 09:17 PM

I'm going to be talking with Smokin Turkey tomorrow. Thanks!

07-29-2011, 05:37 PM	#1
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07-29-2011, 06:12 PM	#2
caseydog somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 07-08-10 Location: Dallas, TX Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I've not done any BBQ events, but I have done car shows, and I have found that the easiest people to deal with are smaller cities. Here in Dallas, I have worked with some of the suburban cities, and they have been pretty easy to deal with. Not all of them, but some. The ones that "get it" tend to be happy to help you out. The problem I have encountered with state properties is that I am dealing with people 200 miles away who really don't care about what my event can do for the communities I want to set up in. On the other hand, local officials DO care about what the event could do for local business and community interests. I haven't tried to deal with federal properties. I just assumed that it would be even worse than state properties. Basically, city officials will sit down with me and hear what I have to say, and judge the event on it's merits. The higher you go on the government totem pole, the less interested they seem to be in the merits. Private property can also be hard to secure for an event, as they are only interested in making money. And, they want to be guaranteed an income from the use of their property, even if it is an empty lot they've been trying to sell for 20 years. They see their property as being worth about 20 times more than it really is, and expect to get paid way too much for it's use. That's just my experience. __________________ 1995 Red Weber 22.5 Master's Touch with Cajun Bandit Rotisserie mod, 18.5 WSM with iQue 110, 18.5 OTG, Copper Smokey Joe Gold with Mini-WSM mod, Black Smokey Joe Platinum (Jumbo Joe) IMBAS Certified MOINK Baller. From hero to ZERO in just one week! Are you ready for a THROWDOWN?

07-29-2011, 06:41 PM	#3
Matt_A is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-19-11 Location: Moore, Oklahoma Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've got a backup plan to try and get it at our county fairgrounds. There's also a small town just south of Norman, OK by the name of Noble. They have a big festival there in May which I wouldn't want to try to join with a comp. But they might be interested in having a sanctioned comp later in the year. I considered my hometown of Moore, and I still have to verify this, I believe that the city doesn't allow any alcoholic beverages on city property. Like I said, gotta check on that to be sure. __________________ [B]Matt Armistead[/B]

07-29-2011, 07:23 PM	#6
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07-29-2011, 07:42 PM	#7
Andrews On the road to being a farker Join Date: 12-28-06 Location: Santa Ana, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It was a few years back but, I think Thom Emery put on a BBQ contest on a base in Seal Beach , CA. Sunburst is the name that comes to mind. Last edited by Andrews; 07-30-2011 at 12:21 AM..

07-29-2011, 06:46 PM	#4
timzcardz is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 07-22-05 Location: Long Island, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Contact Smokin Turkey on here. I think the contest that he does in PA is in a Fed Park.

07-29-2011, 09:17 PM	#8
Matt_A is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-19-11 Location: Moore, Oklahoma Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm going to be talking with Smokin Turkey tomorrow. Thanks! __________________ [B]Matt Armistead[/B]