Wings for a chicken turn in?

jasonjax · 06-10-2011, 01:25 PM

I like to think, and so many a recipient of my smoked wings has said, that I make some pretty tasty wings. That said, I see most of the professional teams turning in chicken thighs. My initital thoughts were maybe warmth and juciness, and flavor from the fat as factors, but that is just me guessing. Would anyone mind providing some guideance on the reasoning behind this. Do judges actually deduct based on which piece you provide?

Thanks!

Lake Dogs · 06-10-2011, 01:33 PM

First off, you're entering a non-sanctioned event, yes? All bets are off. Wings could easily win an ancillary chicken contest.

KCBS (and many others) will judge on 3 criteria: Appearance, Tenderness/Texture, and Taste

It's almost impossible to have a perfectly cooked breast, drumstick, or wing compete day in and day out in tenderness with a thigh. That's why 95%+ use thighs.

Fatback Joe · 06-10-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonjax

. My initital thoughts were maybe warmth and juciness, and flavor from the fat as factors, but that is just me guessing.

I think you pretty much have it figured out.

No deductions made based on what piece you provide. Thighs are just the most common for the reasons you mentioned, plus they are relatively forgiving to cook.

jasonjax · 06-10-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lake Dogs

First off, you're entering a non-sanctioned event, yes?

The event is actually KCBS sanctioned, but since this is my first ever sojourn into the world of competition I'm enetering the backyard cooks division which requires turning in ribs and chicken.

Big Mike's BBQ · 06-10-2011, 02:21 PM

There are some good teams that win lots with chicken wings. JUst cause you hear that most teams do something, that does not mean all teams do and that the ones that don't are not winning doing it. Cook wings if that is what you are good at.

Big Mike

Sawdustguy · 06-10-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Mike's BBQ

There are some good teams that win lots with chicken wings. JUst cause you hear that most teams do something, that does not mean all teams do and that the ones that don't are not winning doing it. Cook wings if that is what you are good at.

Big Mike

I, for one would love to know some of the good teams who have won a chicken catagory in a KCBS contest using chicken wings.

Lake Dogs · 06-10-2011, 02:49 PM

I've read about a few teams that do fairly well with drumsticks, but I dont know that I've ever heard of anyone consistently placing high in chicken with wings...

I'd be interested to see what a very seasoned KCBS judge has to say. Meaning, how often do wings come across the table, and how do they fare?

boogiesnap · 06-10-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sawdustguy

I, for one would love to know some of the good teams who have won a chicken catagory in a KCBS contest using chicken wings.

me too. OP, do a search with wings and my handle. there was a pretty extensive thread regarding the topic. bottom line i took was, I LIKE WINGS, but, i'll TURN IN thighs.

boogiesnap · 06-10-2011, 03:12 PM

here it is.

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=104716

Hub · 06-12-2011, 08:37 AM

I've seen wings show up as a chicken entry at my table once in five years. Unfortunately, they weren't very good ones -- dry, a little burnt, poorly arranged for appearance.

Wings have a low meat to bone ratio and are hard to keep from getting overcooked (no one cares when you slather on a lot of sauce for use as an appetizer).

As mentioned above, thighs are easy to trim attractively, deal well with a little overcooking, and have natural chicken flavor that carries through even when over-sauced.

If you want to win, do thighs. If you want to have fun, try the wings. As a judge I admire creativity and don't pre-judge based on what the chunk of bird is. If wings are tasty, moist, and not over-seasoned they'll stand a chance of a good score but you've got to know you're bucking a huge trend. Good luck!

Sawdustguy · 06-12-2011, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Mike's BBQ

There are some good teams that win lots with chicken wings. JUst cause you hear that most teams do something, that does not mean all teams do and that the ones that don't are not winning doing it. Cook wings if that is what you are good at.

Big Mike

We are still waiting to hear of the names of the good teams who have won a chicken catagory in a KCBS contest using chicken wings. I have a feeling it will be a list with nobody on it.

Smokin' Gnome BBQ · 06-12-2011, 05:52 PM

tried it for a year (last) good flavor, only 1 top 10 finish.

Dan - 3eyzbbq · 06-12-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sawdustguy

We are still waiting to hear of the names of the good teams who have won a chicken catagory in a KCBS contest using chicken wings. I have a feeling it will be a list with nobody on it.

Chicken wings + thighs, I know a couple teams. Just chicken wings? None that I know of.

Sirsmokealot · 06-13-2011, 11:58 AM

I called it "Doing the wrong thing, the right way" They were dead on. Scored lower top 3rd out of around 70. Will not do again, Had to know...

BTW this is my first post, lurking for a while. Jason Kreigh of Fowl Butt BBQ

tmcmaster · 06-14-2011, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirsmokealot

I called it "Doing the wrong thing, the right way" They were dead on. Scored lower top 3rd out of around 70. Will not do again, Had to know...

BTW this is my first post, lurking for a while. Jason Kreigh of Fowl Butt BBQ

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06-10-2011, 01:25 PM	#1
jasonjax is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 12-20-07 Location: Jax, Fl. Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Wings for a chicken turn in? I like to think, and so many a recipient of my smoked wings has said, that I make some pretty tasty wings. That said, I see most of the professional teams turning in chicken thighs. My initital thoughts were maybe warmth and juciness, and flavor from the fat as factors, but that is just me guessing. Would anyone mind providing some guideance on the reasoning behind this. Do judges actually deduct based on which piece you provide? Thanks!

06-10-2011, 01:33 PM	#2
Lake Dogs Babbling Farker Join Date: 07-14-09 Location: Lake Sinclair, GA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	First off, you're entering a non-sanctioned event, yes? All bets are off. Wings could easily win an ancillary chicken contest. KCBS (and many others) will judge on 3 criteria: Appearance, Tenderness/Texture, and Taste It's almost impossible to have a perfectly cooked breast, drumstick, or wing compete day in and day out in tenderness with a thigh. That's why 95%+ use thighs. __________________ Hance - Lake Dogs Cooking Team - MiM/MBN/GBA CBJ and comp cook

06-10-2011, 02:49 PM	#7
Lake Dogs Babbling Farker Join Date: 07-14-09 Location: Lake Sinclair, GA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've read about a few teams that do fairly well with drumsticks, but I dont know that I've ever heard of anyone consistently placing high in chicken with wings... I'd be interested to see what a very seasoned KCBS judge has to say. Meaning, how often do wings come across the table, and how do they fare? __________________ Hance - Lake Dogs Cooking Team - MiM/MBN/GBA CBJ and comp cook

06-10-2011, 03:12 PM	#9
boogiesnap Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-22-10 Location: NEW ENGLAND Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	here it is. http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=104716 __________________ S'mo Q Competition BBQ Team Q so good you gotta have s'mo. Sponsored by Oakridge BBQ twin WSM 22.5's 48" DCS gasser certified MOINK baller farkanaut in training avatar by grillman CLICK HERE to visit the BBQ Brethren Throwdowns

06-12-2011, 08:37 AM	#10
Hub Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 09-01-10 Location: Lincolnton, NC Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've seen wings show up as a chicken entry at my table once in five years. Unfortunately, they weren't very good ones -- dry, a little burnt, poorly arranged for appearance. Wings have a low meat to bone ratio and are hard to keep from getting overcooked (no one cares when you slather on a lot of sauce for use as an appetizer). As mentioned above, thighs are easy to trim attractively, deal well with a little overcooking, and have natural chicken flavor that carries through even when over-sauced. If you want to win, do thighs. If you want to have fun, try the wings. As a judge I admire creativity and don't pre-judge based on what the chunk of bird is. If wings are tasty, moist, and not over-seasoned they'll stand a chance of a good score but you've got to know you're bucking a huge trend. Good luck! __________________ [FONT=Impact][SIZE=3][COLOR=red]Committed Pellethead[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] KCBS MCBJ & CTC Memphis Advantage NOS American Made Traeger 075 Weber Performer Author of [I][FONT=Times New Roman]Burn It In The Back Yard[/FONT][/I] Grillin' and Smokin' like crazy for over 40 years :whoo: [COLOR=red][I]There's No Smoke Alarm In My Outdoor Kitchen![/I][/COLOR]

06-10-2011, 02:21 PM	#5
Big Mike's BBQ On the road to being a farker Join Date: 03-19-09 Location: Huxley, Iowa Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There are some good teams that win lots with chicken wings. JUst cause you hear that most teams do something, that does not mean all teams do and that the ones that don't are not winning doing it. Cook wings if that is what you are good at. Big Mike

06-13-2011, 11:58 AM	#14
Sirsmokealot Got rid of the matchlight. Join Date: 02-17-09 Location: Decatur, IN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I called it "Doing the wrong thing, the right way" They were dead on. Scored lower top 3rd out of around 70. Will not do again, Had to know... BTW this is my first post, lurking for a while. Jason Kreigh of Fowl Butt BBQ

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