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Unread 05-19-2011, 12:47 PM   #1
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Default North Carolina's Rare Burger Ban Makes Red Meat Illegal

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To quote the article, " meat eaters are unable to order their burgers rare or even medium rare thanks to a state restriction that requires restaurants to cook ground beef to an internal temperature of 155 degrees Fahrenheit."
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Unread 05-19-2011, 12:52 PM   #2
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Well then, you know what to do then...

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It's been like that in the City of Chicago for a number of years.
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Is food poisoning because of undercooked ground beef really a big problem or is this just more of the "we know what's better for you than you do" thing that politicians do?
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I'd make a nanny state comment but its becoming increasingly hard to find a place that is willing to let adults make decisions about their own health.
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They just want to control your every thought and decision because freedom of choice and thought is bad apparently.
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That why we dont go out much and cook it myself to our liking!
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One more reason to cook at home. And then politicians sit around and wonder why nobody wants to start a business.
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You have to have certain food regulations would you want to eat in a resturant that never been inspect??? In the last several years there have been a problem with ground beef and chicken. especially the mad cow scare.
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i think its probably a "lets avoid a lawsuit" thing... Farking people are so sue happy anymore
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Eating a rare steak is fine. Eating rare burger is asking to get sick. I'm not sure it needed to be made a law but it could cut down on frivolous lawsuits.
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160F here, I have had US tourist's ask me for hamburger rare and med rare, said sorry we have to cook them to 160F it's the law,

I give them the spreel that hambuger can become contaminated thru the grinding process, while a steak is ok to serve rare/med because bacteria is on the outside surface and gets killed during cooking, they sort of grumbled, cussed and walked away. Oh well what ya gonna do??
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This has been the NC law for quite some time I believe.

Most states have the exact state law if you were to look into it. You can sometimes get a variance if you grind your own beef in house.

I do not want a rare/med. rare burger, even at home, if it wasn't ground on premises. Grinding meat takes what is on the outside (bacteria) and mixes it thoroughly throughout the product. This is where the issue is. As a consumer you have no idea what your commercially ground meat went through before ending up in that package. If you grind your own burger, you can see to it that the process is clean and sanitary. This is why it is "typically" viewed as safe to cook to lower temps with in-house ground burger.
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Of course regulation is needed and nobody wants to get sued but does it have to be LAW because one person out of how many million might get sick? Are medium rare burgers causing a big enough health issue in North Carolina that this needed to be legislated? It's the usual game of bored politicians trying to make you feel safe so they can look like they care and get reelected.
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