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Unread 05-12-2011, 01:26 AM   #1
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After finding this site 2 weeks ago, I find my self in the middle of a UDS build.

I found a food grade drum and have burned it out good. my question is..should i still sand or grind the inside? I can't really see any liner left but what do you guys think?

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Unread 05-12-2011, 05:26 AM   #2
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If you've burned it out well, just go ahead and cook. Hell, it's a food grade drum so you shouldn't really have to worry about anything. Do you know what was stored in it?

We just made a UDS that stored apple juice and only burned it out for about 2 hours at 400*.
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Unread 05-12-2011, 06:43 AM   #3
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Food grade doesn't mean it is OK to burn the lining as you smoke. If it were me, I would make certain all the liner is totally removed even if that requires grinding/sanding.
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If it doesn't rust - then you're not there yet.

As Jim said.... when they labeled it "food grade" they really didn't have burning epoxy in mind.
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^^^^ Good point. If it rusts, the liner's gone. If not....keep at it.
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i'm actually in the early stages of building UDS after picking up 4 - food grade barrels that stored cranberry juice concentrate. i discoverd after reading the UDS thread that i do have liners in them - it looks like a red/rust colored paint. i hit the inside with a torch to see what happened and the stink was not pleasant. granted smoking temp will not get anywhere near torch temp but i want that stuff out. so i've elected to have them sandblasted - son in law is body shop guy so not big cost associated with this. i'd rather be safe then sorry - after all i'll be cooking for family and friends. just my thoughts
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Sand it until you know it is bare metal
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I know you can get away with burning in Lockport. But, if you find yourself not wanting the hassle of burning and/or grinding, we're blessed here in Chicagoland with several options for new or reconditioned drums.

I bought my drum from www.thecarycompany.com in Addison. I just had to pick it up. A brand new drum w/o liner was $69, a re-conditioned one (they sandblast them completely clean) is $35.

www.skolnik.com in the City is another option I found via google.
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I know you can get away with burning in Lockport. But, if you find yourself not wanting the hassle of burning and/or grinding, we're blessed here in Chicagoland with several options for new or reconditioned drums.

I bought my drum from www.thecarycompany.com in Addison. I just had to pick it up. A brand new drum w/o liner was $69, a re-conditioned one (they sandblast them completely clean) is $35.

www.skolnik.com in the City is another option I found via google.

I got mine from Cary as well but you still need to burn it out. I burnt mine out on my driveway but did it during the day so it wasnt too obvious. Plus I live in a townhome and Im sure the HOA wouldnt of approved but hey its not like they do anything with all the money I give them a month. Moe if you have any questions feel free to PM me.

After my burnout I did rub the drum down with Crisco as well to help season it up.
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Thanks for the help guys,

I'm going to put my fittings for air flow on tonight and will prolly give it another good burn after that.

This may be a dumb question by why do you season it with crisco or cooking oil?
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The oil acts as a barrier. It keeps rust from forming on the inside of the barrel. Outside is not a big deal.
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Question on burn-outs? Do you go ahead and drill the vent holes in the bottom to get proper air to the fire BEFORE the burnout? Like the OP, I found this site 2 weeks ago and have sourced nearly all my parts to build my UDS including the Weber grill i just purchased last night! (for when I want to smoke a big-bird)
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Dumb (but related) question: If my new UDS barrel held soybean oil but had no liner, I'm guessing I don't really need to re-season it, right?
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I've made 6 UDS's so far...... If you give it a good burn and then pressure wash, you should be good to go. Just make sure you first cook has a lot of fat to get the drum nice and seasoned. I am seasoning one today. I ask my butcher at the grocery store to save fat trimmings for me. No charge. I put on some ground pork and the beef fat and just let it run about 300. They come out beautiful.
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I've made 5 UDS's so far have 8 barrels sitting on the side of my house waiting to be built. I SCORED today! I made a UDS for a Coworker who just bought a large sand blaster, I will be over this weekend getting my junk done!!! woo hoo!!
I've burned all the others with a weed burner in the front yard, no big deal.. then I power washed all the crap off.. I have sanded down to bare metal (PITA).. the burn should be plenty. I seasoned with some PAM spray on the inside.. no problems as of yet!
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