Do you drag your smoker to your Commercial Kitchen?

TheMidnightSmoker · 03-31-2011, 12:40 PM

I am just starting my “Official” catering business and I need to know how you caterers do it. Specifically, how do you do your pick- up or drop-off catering? My local health Department requires that I use a Commercial Kitchen/Commissary. I am sure yours probably does to and I am guessing most of you do not own one but rent space in one. So when you are cooking Que for a customer to pick-up do you actually drag your smoker to the Commercial Kitchen or are you only doing the prep work there and smoking the meat somewhere else?

PCDoctor_1979 · 03-31-2011, 01:27 PM

The short answer is yes - I park the smoker next to the kitchen. Of course, HD rules vary a great deal from state to state so your results may vary. In this case, most inspectors will look for the cooker to be very close to the prep area.

worthsmokin · 03-31-2011, 08:51 PM

Check with your HD. Maybe the case you can't carry product outside/inside to the smoker without it being screened and covered.

yelonutz · 04-01-2011, 12:49 AM

I think most folks, if they were truthful, bring their smoker to the commercial kitchen with a wink and a nod. You deliver the food and IF there is a problem, of course you cooked it there. Let them prove you wrong. I dont think this is the answer you are looking for but in reality, an honest one.

NUTZ

Cabntmkr1 · 04-02-2011, 11:17 AM

In Kansas, we have the option of using an RV, or in my case, a travel trailer as our commercial
kitchen. Also, they will give an exemption in Kansas for the 3-bay sink requirement as long as you have a bus tub set up in place of the third bay of the sink when/if HD drops by for a visit.
That way, I cook at home by having the smoker right outside of my commercial kitchen.

thillin · 04-03-2011, 03:59 PM

Here in North Texas, the comercial kitchen is also a requirement for grey water disposal for certified trailers.

jbrink01 · 04-03-2011, 07:07 PM

My trailer is my commercial kitchen........

C Rocke · 04-03-2011, 11:22 PM

Need to check with DEH - CA code is either "cooked on site" at the customer's location, or cooked in the commercial kitchen - That is to say inside the location in an NSF approved unit. That applies to "pick up" customers. Cutting corners and bending the rules can affect your liability insurance and permits/licenses. Be careful!

TheMidnightSmoker · 04-03-2011, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C Rocke

Need to check with DEH - CA code is either "cooked on site" at the customer's location, or cooked in the commercial kitchen - That is to say inside the location in an NSF approved unit. That applies to "pick up" customers. Cutting corners and bending the rules can affect your liability insurance and permits/licenses. Be careful!

Thanks. Yes I want to obey the rules and certainly do not want to screw up my license and insurance. If I am required to cook "inside" the commercial kitchen then I wont have access to a smoker. Thats where my confusion comes in. I am assuming most commercial kitchens have ovens but doubt they have a smoker.

Ford · 04-04-2011, 06:13 PM

In MI my trailer is a co0mmercial kitchen. Just sent in my renewal fee even though I live in FL now.

In FL I need a commissary to dump waste water and get fresh if the event does not supply facilities. Otherwise I'm going to be self contained. I'm starting to work with the county HD now on this.

Bama Q · 04-22-2011, 06:45 AM

Screened and covered. That is the problem, Check with HD to see what they will allow you to do, Most will tell you what they expect, Most HD inspector will offer suggestion to solve your problem. Go to a event in your area and see what, see what others are doing, Every area and inspector has different views.

jbrink01 · 04-24-2011, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ford

In MI my trailer is a co0mmercial kitchen. Just sent in my renewal fee even though I live in FL now.

In FL I need a commissary to dump waste water and get fresh if the event does not supply facilities. Otherwise I'm going to be self contained. I'm starting to work with the county HD now on this.

I get by the commissary issue by dumping gray water at the city RV dump station, as well as filling from the city water supply. Only thing illegal would be to fill from my well. Of course I never do that......

03-31-2011, 12:40 PM	#1
TheMidnightSmoker On the road to being a farker Join Date: 04-07-10 Location: Antelope, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Do you drag your smoker to your Commercial Kitchen? I am just starting my “Official” catering business and I need to know how you caterers do it. Specifically, how do you do your pick- up or drop-off catering? My local health Department requires that I use a Commercial Kitchen/Commissary. I am sure yours probably does to and I am guessing most of you do not own one but rent space in one. So when you are cooking Que for a customer to pick-up do you actually drag your smoker to the Commercial Kitchen or are you only doing the prep work there and smoking the meat somewhere else? __________________ The Midnight Smoker BBQ

03-31-2011, 01:27 PM	#2
PCDoctor_1979 Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 11-01-09 Location: West Des Moines, IA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The short answer is yes - I park the smoker next to the kitchen. Of course, HD rules vary a great deal from state to state so your results may vary. In this case, most inspectors will look for the cooker to be very close to the prep area. __________________ Brian Sweeney - CBJ #3691 - '77 Step Van Mobile Kitchen, Horizon Marshall, WSM with Pro Q Stacker, Weber Kettle & Smokey Joe GOLD. "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Clarke's Third Law

03-31-2011, 08:51 PM	#3
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04-01-2011, 12:49 AM	#4
yelonutz is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 06-02-07 Location: Chico, Ca Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think most folks, if they were truthful, bring their smoker to the commercial kitchen with a wink and a nod. You deliver the food and IF there is a problem, of course you cooked it there. Let them prove you wrong. I dont think this is the answer you are looking for but in reality, an honest one. NUTZ __________________ Weber Smokey Mountain 18 & 22.5 in Gator Pit Trailer mount MAK 2 Star General Pellet Pooper Medium Green Egg Mini Green Egg New Black stoker with built in wi-fi KCBS CBJ #20258 Drunk Uncles BBQ Team, Ruining Family Gatherings for Over 20 Years. DAMN IT ANDY!!

04-02-2011, 11:17 AM	#5
Cabntmkr1 is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 08-19-07 Location: Wichita, Ks. Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In Kansas, we have the option of using an RV, or in my case, a travel trailer as our commercial kitchen. Also, they will give an exemption in Kansas for the 3-bay sink requirement as long as you have a bus tub set up in place of the third bay of the sink when/if HD drops by for a visit. That way, I cook at home by having the smoker right outside of my commercial kitchen. __________________ New Braunfels Black Diamond Backwoods Patio Smoker ET-73 Maverick Wireless Thermometer ServSafe Certified Déjà Moo - The feeling you've heard that bull before.

04-03-2011, 03:59 PM	#6
thillin somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 07-21-04 Location: Keller, Texas Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Here in North Texas, the comercial kitchen is also a requirement for grey water disposal for certified trailers. __________________ Med Spicewine-adopted 3/13/10 *CL Score* 2 Large BGEs(pimped out w/Thirdeye Eggcessories)-hatched 6/4/07 & 4/20/11 Med BGE-adopted 2/2/08 *CL Score* -SOLD Mini BGE-adopted 1/31/08 *CL Score* Traeger 075-adopted 12/3/11 CL Score Weber 1 touch *CL Score* Weber Spirit 500 *CL Score* Weber Smokey Joe Silver *CL Score* BLUE & RED Thermapens Klose 20x42-SOLD Paddlin Pigs BBQ Ty

04-03-2011, 07:07 PM	#7
jbrink01 is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 08-17-06 Location: Washington, Missouri Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My trailer is my commercial kitchen........ __________________ KCBS #13207 **2013 Insane Can Posse Tour** Sponsored By: *Gateway BBQ Store* *Blues Hog BBQ Company* *Plowboys BBQ Company*

04-03-2011, 11:22 PM	#8
C Rocke is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 01-29-07 Location: Garden Grove, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Need to check with DEH - CA code is either "cooked on site" at the customer's location, or cooked in the commercial kitchen - That is to say inside the location in an NSF approved unit. That applies to "pick up" customers. Cutting corners and bending the rules can affect your liability insurance and permits/licenses. Be careful! __________________ *Rancho A Go Go BBQ Truck* *Rancho To Go BBQ Takeout* Cookshack 250 Smoke Chef 200 Twitter - @ranchoagogo @ranchotogobbq www.ranchoagogo.com www.ranchotogobbq.com

04-04-2011, 06:13 PM	#10
Ford is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 04-14-07 Location: Lakeland Florida Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In MI my trailer is a co0mmercial kitchen. Just sent in my renewal fee even though I live in FL now. In FL I need a commissary to dump waste water and get fresh if the event does not supply facilities. Otherwise I'm going to be self contained. I'm starting to work with the county HD now on this. __________________ Ford Owner/Head Cook/Chief Bottle Washer for Great Lakes BBQ & Feed Competition BBQ Team FBA Member, KCBS Member & KCBS Certified BBQ Judge Spicewine medium, weber kettle, gas grill

04-22-2011, 06:45 AM	#11
Bama Q On the road to being a farker Join Date: 03-29-10 Location: North Alabama, Home of White BBQ Sauce Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Screened and covered. That is the problem, Check with HD to see what they will allow you to do, Most will tell you what they expect, Most HD inspector will offer suggestion to solve your problem. Go to a event in your area and see what, see what others are doing, Every area and inspector has different views. __________________ Custom Made 6' Stick burner, Pellet popper KCBS CBJ Ain't no Smoke. Ain't no Bar-be-Que

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