Sam's Club National Tour - Mandatory W-9 Required

huminie · 03-24-2011, 01:37 PM

Just heard from the event director of my "local" event that all teams will be required to provide a fully filled out W-9 (i.e. with SSN) at the Friday cooks meeting. This is mandatory for all teams, not just money winners.

Is this a normal thing for contests? How do you guys feel about that?

glenntm · 03-24-2011, 01:41 PM

We received the same e-mail this morning. We've had to do this at a couple other events before.

4 smokin butts · 03-24-2011, 01:41 PM

they had us do that in midwest city, at the sams event last year

G$ · 03-24-2011, 01:52 PM

Hmmm I still don't have an email.

Tom, did it come from Mike Lake?

huminie · 03-24-2011, 01:55 PM

So, you guys think that is cool?

Just trying to gauge how other teams feel about this. As a victim of identity theft I am a little gunshy when it comes to this type of information. I expected to have to provide it if I won some cash, but being required to provide it before the contest starts took me by surprise.

G$ · 03-24-2011, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huminie

So, you guys think that is cool?

Just trying to gauge how other teams feel about this. As a victim of identity theft I am a little gunshy when it comes to this type of information. I expected to have to provide it if I won some cash, but being required to provide it before the contest starts took me by surprise.

I am sure it will speed the payout process to have it done ahead of time...

glenntm · 03-24-2011, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G$

Hmmm I still don't have an email.

Tom, did it come from Mike Lake?

No, it was Ben Lobenstein.

glenntm · 03-24-2011, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huminie

So, you guys think that is cool?

Just trying to gauge how other teams feel about this. As a victim of identity theft I am a little gunshy when it comes to this type of information. I expected to have to provide it if I won some cash, but being required to provide it before the contest starts took me by surprise.

Were OK with it. We have an LLC set up, and will give them that Tax Id number.

AZScott · 03-24-2011, 02:14 PM

I think this contest is a little different than most. With the event being sponsored by Sam's Club and occurring on Sam's Club properties I don't see them taking any chances when it comes to the IRS. What are there, 30 locals, 5 regionals, and 1 national contest? That's a lot of money and additional risk compared to a local charity throwing a competition. I have no issues providing a W-9 but I have started keeping all of my receipts related to competing this year.

huminie · 03-24-2011, 02:18 PM

Ok, cool. I know Ben is completely trustworthy...I just don't like my info getting too far away from me, but it looks like it's the only way to play in this particular ballgame.

Thanks for the information!

kcmike · 03-24-2011, 02:34 PM

I think if the contest was being put on by the local Rotary Club, I might question their need for the information. However, since Sam's is, well... Sam's, I don't think it's probably all that big of a deal. Probably the wave of the future.

The_Kapn · 03-24-2011, 02:52 PM

We are going to see more and more of this.

Obamacare has a provision to require a lot more 1099's than before.
And, 16K extra IRS agents to support it.
Stated reason is "to determine the amount of unreported income which should be taxable"--or close to that.

This provision has gotten a lot of heat and Obama has indicated he will "re-think" it and may be "ameiable" to the repeal of it.

Till that happens (if it does) we will see a lot more organizers collecting W-9 info and issuing 1099's.

I am keeping receipts and mileage records for every nickle and mile we spend competing.
Better safe than sorry.

JMHO

TIM

Bentley · 03-24-2011, 04:06 PM

You can have my SS# when I when the money, seemed to work at the American Royal, they did not ask for mine it until after the awards...Like you, intil then I will keep it to myself. Are you gonna give me my W-9 back if I dont win any money?

RangerJ · 03-24-2011, 05:14 PM

This is far from unusual.

If you enter as team abc barbeque and the promoter pays a check to abc barbeque how have you dealt with that in the past?

I'm a novice at best, with no real resume to speak of, but I certainly have a tax umbrella for all of this. to include the write offs...

much ado about nothing.

Bentley · 03-24-2011, 05:39 PM

I don't mind turning in the W-9, I just dont want my SS# floating around when it is not nessesary.

03-24-2011, 01:37 PM	#1
huminie is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-11-10 Location: Gilroy, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sam's Club National Tour - Mandatory W-9 Required Just heard from the event director of my "local" event that all teams will be required to provide a fully filled out W-9 (i.e. with SSN) at the Friday cooks meeting. This is mandatory for all teams, not just money winners. Is this a normal thing for contests? How do you guys feel about that? __________________ 2011 CBBQA Rookie ToY - 6th Overall, 2012 American Royal Invitational - Huminie's Hogalicious BBQ

03-24-2011, 01:41 PM	#2
glenntm On the road to being a farker Join Date: 04-13-10 Location: Chandler, AZ Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We received the same e-mail this morning. We've had to do this at a couple other events before. __________________ I.A.B. 30 BBQ Chandler, AZ

03-24-2011, 01:52 PM	#4
G$ is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 01-01-05 Location: Southern Arizona Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hmmm I still don't have an email. Tom, did it come from Mike Lake? __________________ Totally Que-Less BBQ Team

03-24-2011, 01:55 PM	#5
huminie is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-11-10 Location: Gilroy, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So, you guys think that is cool? Just trying to gauge how other teams feel about this. As a victim of identity theft I am a little gunshy when it comes to this type of information. I expected to have to provide it if I won some cash, but being required to provide it before the contest starts took me by surprise. __________________ 2011 CBBQA Rookie ToY - 6th Overall, 2012 American Royal Invitational - Huminie's Hogalicious BBQ

03-24-2011, 02:18 PM	#10
huminie is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-11-10 Location: Gilroy, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ok, cool. I know Ben is completely trustworthy...I just don't like my info getting too far away from me, but it looks like it's the only way to play in this particular ballgame. Thanks for the information! __________________ 2011 CBBQA Rookie ToY - 6th Overall, 2012 American Royal Invitational - Huminie's Hogalicious BBQ

03-24-2011, 01:41 PM	#3
4 smokin butts Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 09-21-10 Location: millstadt il. Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	they had us do that in midwest city, at the sams event last year

03-24-2011, 02:14 PM	#9
AZScott Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 02-22-08 Location: Phoenix, AZ Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think this contest is a little different than most. With the event being sponsored by Sam's Club and occurring on Sam's Club properties I don't see them taking any chances when it comes to the IRS. What are there, 30 locals, 5 regionals, and 1 national contest? That's a lot of money and additional risk compared to a local charity throwing a competition. I have no issues providing a W-9 but I have started keeping all of my receipts related to competing this year.

03-24-2011, 02:34 PM	#11
kcmike is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 02-09-11 Location: Kearney, MO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think if the contest was being put on by the local Rotary Club, I might question their need for the information. However, since Sam's is, well... Sam's, I don't think it's probably all that big of a deal. Probably the wave of the future. __________________ Mike Trump Owner & CEO, Oakridge BBQ LLC ~ Visit Oakridge BBQ ~ Lang 84D 22½" WSM Oaklahoma Joe 20x40 22½" Weber Kettle

03-24-2011, 02:52 PM	#12
The_Kapn Moderator Emeritus Join Date: 04-08-04 Location: Marianna, FL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We are going to see more and more of this. Obamacare has a provision to require a lot more 1099's than before. And, 16K extra IRS agents to support it. Stated reason is "to determine the amount of unreported income which should be taxable"--or close to that. This provision has gotten a lot of heat and Obama has indicated he will "re-think" it and may be "ameiable" to the repeal of it. Till that happens (if it does) we will see a lot more organizers collecting W-9 info and issuing 1099's. I am keeping receipts and mileage records for every nickle and mile we spend competing. Better safe than sorry. JMHO TIM __________________ "Flirtin' with Disaster" BBQ Team (RETIRED) FBA and KCBS Cook and Judge. Former owner of a WSM, a Smokey Joe, a Charbroil Commercial gasser (junk), and the legendary "StudeDera". Now cooking with a FEC100, a Traeger Lil' Tex, and a Fast Eddy PG500 Proud Pellet guy cooking on real wood.

03-24-2011, 04:06 PM	#13
Bentley Babbling Farker Join Date: 03-14-07 Location: Eden After the Fall Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You can have my SS# when I when the money, seemed to work at the American Royal, they did not ask for mine it until after the awards...Like you, intil then I will keep it to myself. Are you gonna give me my W-9 back if I dont win any money? __________________ Certified Master Judge #5382 What is best in life? "To crush your BBQ opponents, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

03-24-2011, 05:14 PM	#14
RangerJ is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 11-04-08 Location: Houston, Texas Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This is far from unusual. If you enter as team abc barbeque and the promoter pays a check to abc barbeque how have you dealt with that in the past? I'm a novice at best, with no real resume to speak of, but I certainly have a tax umbrella for all of this. to include the write offs... much ado about nothing. __________________ www.pappacharliesbbq.com Cooking on a Baby J by Jambo Are You Ready to Throwdown?

03-24-2011, 05:39 PM	#15
Bentley Babbling Farker Join Date: 03-14-07 Location: Eden After the Fall Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't mind turning in the W-9, I just dont want my SS# floating around when it is not nessesary. __________________ Certified Master Judge #5382 What is best in life? "To crush your BBQ opponents, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

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