Chili help

Smokin' Aces · 03-03-2011, 08:05 PM

i have been trying make a competition style chili and i have not had any success. can anyone lend a helping hand

deez butts · 03-03-2011, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smokin' Aces

i have been trying make a competition style chili and i have not had any success. can anyone lend a helping hand

Sure! Is this for an ICS or CASI comp? Send me a pm with your questions and I can help you out. I compete in both red and verde.

Chipper · 03-04-2011, 05:05 AM

Same here.

Smokenstein & monster crew · 03-04-2011, 09:48 AM

Fresh ingrediants, little spice, lotta love, little luck

Westexbbq · 03-04-2011, 10:30 AM

Talk to me at the upcoming card game.

MattCom · 03-04-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Westexbbq

Talk to me at the upcoming card game.

Mind if I eavesdrop?

The Pickled Pig · 03-04-2011, 02:06 PM

shhh....

http://www.betterthanhot.com/Prepari...on%20Chili.pdf

Bones · 03-04-2011, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pickled Pig

shhh....

http://www.betterthanhot.com/Prepari...on%20Chili.pdf

That looks more complicated than BBQ

Smokin' Aces · 03-22-2011, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bones

That looks more complicated than BBQ

i agree

4 smokin butts · 03-22-2011, 11:33 PM

start with wendys,add pork chunks,beef ,bean, onions,paste ,tomatoes,a bottle tiger sauce great chili

jbrink01 · 03-22-2011, 11:36 PM

Depends on where you're competing. I cooked ICS chili in my hometown and lost bad teh 1st time. I then won 3 years in a row cooking a traditional mid-western farmhouse style chili.

Lake Dogs · 03-23-2011, 08:33 AM

It's called "Texas Red". The sanctioning bodies enforce it. It's not my favorite to eat,
but it is fun to compete at it (I'm the local Pod membership guy for CASI).

The write up at the URL above is really pretty good. I'm not certain if they mentioned
it, but if you're accustomed to cooking chili with vegetables & beans you're in for a
huge shock when it comes to sodium. Veggies & beans really absorb sodium and keep
the taste away from the tongue. Without them, everything else being equal, you
end up with chili gone salt-lick. GHASTLY bad. Look to salt/sodium free or low sodium
ingredients.

You'll get it to 2 or 3 dumps of seasonings, once you get accustomed to it. Start
with browning your meat with a tiny amount of oil/grease. You'll probably season it
a little here. Then in goes the tomato sauce. Right here look to the lower sodium
ones. I use Contadina and Wally World (mix). Bring to a slow boil and in goes the
first major dump of seasonings. Reduce to a simmer. For mine I go the 2nd drop
1 hour before the final turn-in. Thin with water if needed.

For perfection you'll want at very least a mild chili "burn" initially early on the tongue,
then in the middle, and later with a mild chili after-burn. To do this you'll need a
mix of peppers. Black, white, cayenne, ancho, small amount of ground jalepeno,
etc will help with this.

It's like barbecue in that you dont want to offend the judges. Too salty and you're
gone. Too hot, same thing. Not spicy at all, same thing. Middle of the way gets
it.

There's an art to the turn-in cups. First, season the cup about an hour before turn
in (I usually do this right after my 2nd drop). The simplest way to do this is to
take some chili powder and a little garlic powder and put it in the cup. Then fill the
cup with hot/steaming water. Take a clove of garlic, sliced, and rub it gently along
the top of the cup. Then close the cup and shake it up a little. Allow it to sit/steep
for 10 minutes or so, then dump the water and wipe it off (clean the cup and lid).
*voila* you're done. You've effectively removed the styrofoam smell and taste from
the cup and replaced it with a chili smell.

Put your chili in the cup about 5 minutes before turn-in and allow it to sit. You're
looking for the grease to rise to the top. Immediately right before you turn your
chili in, take a small spoon and skim off all of the grease. Stir and go.

gsmith · 03-23-2011, 09:48 AM

Great info in this thread.

I ate some "red" from a champion chili cooker while in Texas and it was great but I wouldn't want to eat a bowl of it - comp chili is way different than chili you make at home

Lake Dogs · 03-23-2011, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsmith

Great info in this thread.

I ate some "red" from a champion chili cooker while in Texas and it was great but I wouldn't want to eat a bowl of it - comp chili is way different than chili you make at home

It's either really good, or really NOT good, with very little in between.
I like it, generally, but it's still not my favorite, and I've done what now,
probably 200 sanctioned chili cookoffs, give or take.

I'm the guy who teaches/charges the judges. CASI doesnt certify judges,
so if they're not trained a little we end up with WILD scores. I had one
time where I got all 8's and 9's, and a 1 from this one person. Her score
took me from 1st place to tied for 5th... a ONE?!?!?! I would hope warm
dog feces would be better than a ONE!!! Ok, maybe not, but seriously...

Learn to value what judge certification and training bring... KCBS could
really benefit from working on this, IMHO.

Chipper · 03-23-2011, 12:23 PM

There is talk of the ICS actually holding training classes for judges. I too have been the victim of novice judges from both CASI and the ICS.
However, regardless of how much training, just like BBQ, personal preference is a huge factor in scoring.
We could go on forever with some of the comments, I've seen. But my all time favorite is "needs more beans".

03-03-2011, 08:05 PM	#1
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03-04-2011, 05:05 AM	#3
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03-22-2011, 11:33 PM	#10
4 smokin butts Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 09-21-10 Location: millstadt il. Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	start with wendys,add pork chunks,beef ,bean, onions,paste ,tomatoes,a bottle tiger sauce great chili

03-22-2011, 11:36 PM	#11
jbrink01 is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 08-17-06 Location: Washington, Missouri Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Depends on where you're competing. I cooked ICS chili in my hometown and lost bad teh 1st time. I then won 3 years in a row cooking a traditional mid-western farmhouse style chili. __________________ KCBS #13207 **2013 Insane Can Posse Tour** Sponsored By: *Gateway BBQ Store* *Blues Hog BBQ Company* *Plowboys BBQ Company*

03-23-2011, 08:33 AM	#12
Lake Dogs Babbling Farker Join Date: 07-14-09 Location: Lake Sinclair, GA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's called "Texas Red". The sanctioning bodies enforce it. It's not my favorite to eat, but it is fun to compete at it (I'm the local Pod membership guy for CASI). The write up at the URL above is really pretty good. I'm not certain if they mentioned it, but if you're accustomed to cooking chili with vegetables & beans you're in for a huge shock when it comes to sodium. Veggies & beans really absorb sodium and keep the taste away from the tongue. Without them, everything else being equal, you end up with chili gone salt-lick. GHASTLY bad. Look to salt/sodium free or low sodium ingredients. You'll get it to 2 or 3 dumps of seasonings, once you get accustomed to it. Start with browning your meat with a tiny amount of oil/grease. You'll probably season it a little here. Then in goes the tomato sauce. Right here look to the lower sodium ones. I use Contadina and Wally World (mix). Bring to a slow boil and in goes the first major dump of seasonings. Reduce to a simmer. For mine I go the 2nd drop 1 hour before the final turn-in. Thin with water if needed. For perfection you'll want at very least a mild chili "burn" initially early on the tongue, then in the middle, and later with a mild chili after-burn. To do this you'll need a mix of peppers. Black, white, cayenne, ancho, small amount of ground jalepeno, etc will help with this. It's like barbecue in that you dont want to offend the judges. Too salty and you're gone. Too hot, same thing. Not spicy at all, same thing. Middle of the way gets it. There's an art to the turn-in cups. First, season the cup about an hour before turn in (I usually do this right after my 2nd drop). The simplest way to do this is to take some chili powder and a little garlic powder and put it in the cup. Then fill the cup with hot/steaming water. Take a clove of garlic, sliced, and rub it gently along the top of the cup. Then close the cup and shake it up a little. Allow it to sit/steep for 10 minutes or so, then dump the water and wipe it off (clean the cup and lid). voila you're done. You've effectively removed the styrofoam smell and taste from the cup and replaced it with a chili smell. Put your chili in the cup about 5 minutes before turn-in and allow it to sit. You're looking for the grease to rise to the top. Immediately right before you turn your chili in, take a small spoon and skim off all of the grease. Stir and go. __________________ Hance - Lake Dogs Cooking Team - MiM/MBN/GBA CBJ and comp cook

03-23-2011, 09:48 AM	#13
gsmith Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 02-23-09 Location: NE Connecticut Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Great info in this thread. I ate some "red" from a champion chili cooker while in Texas and it was great but I wouldn't want to eat a bowl of it - comp chili is way different than chili you make at home

03-23-2011, 12:23 PM	#15
Chipper is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 09-09-08 Location: Red Lion, PA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	There is talk of the ICS actually holding training classes for judges. I too have been the victim of novice judges from both CASI and the ICS. However, regardless of how much training, just like BBQ, personal preference is a huge factor in scoring. We could go on forever with some of the comments, I've seen. But my all time favorite is "needs more beans". __________________ Backwoods- Competitor Grill Dome- Super Dome "The Twins"- 2 Large Grill Domes Weber Performer Weber Smokey Mountain Kamado #7 [URL="http://www.redlionspicyfoods.com"]www.redlionspicyfoods.com[/URL] [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/CHARLE%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG]

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