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Old 03-03-2011, 06:22 AM   #1
HONCHO GREGORY
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Can I ask you if you would be more likely to enter a BBQ comp if the price was

!, entrance fee $100 and the pay back is 100%.
in prize and cash

2, fees at $220 and pay back is also 80%

as long as the event is run in a pro manner

and would you enter if the event is a charity event vs
run for profit. With a promoter

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Old 03-03-2011, 06:49 AM   #2
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I'm not keen on participating in any event with less then 100% payout. Every event we've cooked in has more then 100% of the entry fees going out to the teams.
Profit or charity.. the money should be made from sponsors, not the teams.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:52 AM   #3
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I don't really consider payout unless it is something really odd, but I would favor your first option. I'd be more open to a lower payout if the proceeds go to a charity versus a for-profit promoter.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:02 AM   #4
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Most entry fees around this area start at $200 and go up; I've paid as much as $600
entry fee and they always had a nice payout, 80% payout 20% charity, or 100%
payout. However, to the third part of your question, the entry fee is honestly one
of the smallest portions of the costs. For KCBS or other KCBS type we'll spend right
at $800 when it's said and done and we dont travel far. For MBN we'll spend about
$1200 but have spend more. What you're describing would definitely be a backyard
(non-sanctioned) comp, yes? For those you usually get a few local back yard type
of teams, and that's generally about it. You may get 1 or 2 teams that compete
regularly, but honestly it's unlikely. Most of them tend to stick with sanctioned
competitions.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:00 PM   #5
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You also need to keep in mind you are asking that question in a state where teams will have, at last tally and pending some further developments, anywhere from 15-18 different competitions to choose from in 2011.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:34 PM   #6
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I look more at payout amounts than percentage of entry fees.

I've never done that math for any contest I have ever been to and unless its written somewhere on the application or contest advertisements, I wouldn't have any idea of what the payout to entry fee percentage is.

I have also seen charities far more professional than some pro's and some pro's that shouldn't run a bake sale. To that end, I think the event need to be well run no matter what type of organization runs it

but thats just me
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:34 AM   #7
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I may be waaay off here, but I imagine most teams look for a competition that has a reputation of being well-run, has a good rep from the sanctioning body and has a minimum $7500 purse.

A lot of KCBS comps try to hit the $10,000 purse mark. Those usually have 38-50 teams or more. A $250 entry fee is about the limit for a purse of that size. When you get into the $20k, $35k, $50k purses, I can understand a $400-500 entry fee.

Doing all the calculating and percentage of entry fee to payout is a bunch of mindless chatter to me. I want to know some sort of concrete number before hand and I have other things to worry about during the contest as to how many showed up and what the purse will be based on that.
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