What does an average competition cost you?

goodbuddiesbbq · 02-10-2011, 05:02 PM

What I am looking for is how much do you typically spend on average per event?

This includes Entry Fee, Gas, Tolls, Food, Beer, Comp Food, Charcoal, Wood, Pellets, Sauces, Rubs, Foil, Cleaners New Utensils...Everything!

Best Guesses Only...it'll be interesting to see what the "Winners" have to say.

moocow · 02-10-2011, 05:05 PM

This weekend we are spending $485 on everything including gas and we are driving 550 miles round trip. This is about what we spend everywhere except the American Royal.

roksmith · 02-10-2011, 05:05 PM

I'd guess $600-800 depending on how far we travel for us.

rooftop bbq · 02-10-2011, 05:06 PM

about 650 we try and make about half it back in peoples choice

Spanx · 02-10-2011, 05:09 PM

$800+ when we do an MBN and under $500 when we do IBCA

Rub · 02-10-2011, 05:17 PM

Probably right around $600.

Yazoo's · 02-10-2011, 06:29 PM

For the average contest we spend about $750 or so at KCBS and around $1800 for a MBN contest (those whole hogs add up!) Obviously, driving distance, entrance fees and the like can add or subtract up to $400 to a contest.

ZILLA · 02-10-2011, 06:50 PM

95% of the comps I do average $250.00 in expenses the rest run between $300-$350 with Pasadena running $600.00 (That includes two nights at a Holiday Inn Express).

HawgNationBBQ · 02-10-2011, 06:55 PM

We spend about $1,000.00 per KCBS event. That includes entry fee, travel, (2) hotels, competition food, meals, and alcohol.

goodbuddiesbbq · 02-10-2011, 07:45 PM

Lets say a contest pays $10,000.

Overall Top 5 Get Paid:
GC - Gets $2000
RGC - Gets $1200
3rd - Gets $400
4th - Gets $240
5th - Gets $160

Would you consider those payouts weak for 1st & 2nd?

Category Gets:
1st - $400
2nd -$300
3rd - $200
4th - $150
5th - $100
6th - $90
7th - $80
8th - $70
9th - $60
10th - $50

In a scenario like this...I would say that probably 3-4 teams would make money or break even. Possibly another 4-6 teams would recover at least half of their expenses.

My opinion is this...if an event has a lot of teams competing (50 or more), there are probably 3-5 teams that could say they had the best stuff on that day IMO. However, with different judging tables, no matter weak or strong, the top can be separated by only a few points.

Currently, it seems like 2-3 people make money or break even and 2-3 teams might get half back, maybe. I compete with a team that has had some pretty good success, but in a comp with 70 teams and getting 3 mid range category calls and a finish less than 2nd...we walked with a $100. 1 bad table away from making some real noise (chicken was good, judges were wrong). In this scenario, we would have walked with $440 and probably only lost $250. Instead, we eat $650 and walk back with so many trophies it looks like we robbed a senior bowling league.

Trophies are nice, but I'd rather compete more often.

Are more people in favor of winner take all (McCain/Palin) or share the wealth (Obama/Biden)?

Trickle Down Economics meets BBQ! And if this is my 3rd Strike...let it be...Obama 2012! Don't you remove this Jorge!

Smokenstein & monster crew · 02-10-2011, 07:56 PM

Lots of time & patience.........
its actually all priceless, the fun, spending time with family friends & the BBQ community

Jeff Hughes · 02-10-2011, 07:57 PM

That's a good payout schedule. The GC, RGC and categories are typical for this area.

We often see a fifth category. We never see payment down 5 overall in a 10k comp.

I like the way you did it.

Mister Bob · 02-10-2011, 08:00 PM

About $700 to $800 depending on how far we travel.

TooSaucedToPork · 02-10-2011, 08:02 PM

We do about $500 a contest in KCBS. $700 for a MBN. And about $8500 for Memphis in May That's Gas, Meat, Entry, Booze, well everything...

Neil

jbrink01 · 02-10-2011, 08:06 PM

About $750.

View Poll Results: How much do you spend (for everything) at a contest?
Under $500	23	17.56%
$501-$600	47	35.88%
$601-$700	24	18.32%
$701-$800	15	11.45%
$800+	22	16.79%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

02-10-2011, 05:02 PM	#1
goodbuddiesbbq is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 11-24-09 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What does an average competition cost you? What I am looking for is how much do you typically spend on average per event? This includes Entry Fee, Gas, Tolls, Food, Beer, Comp Food, Charcoal, Wood, Pellets, Sauces, Rubs, Foil, Cleaners New Utensils...Everything! Best Guesses Only...it'll be interesting to see what the "Winners" have to say.

02-10-2011, 05:05 PM	#2
moocow is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-31-08 Location: Belton, mo Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This weekend we are spending $485 on everything including gas and we are driving 550 miles round trip. This is about what we spend everywhere except the American Royal. __________________ -Shane Petzold- -MooCow BBQ team- -President of Operation BBQ Relief- -www.moocowbbq.com- -Home of the Make it Take it Drum Class- -kCBS/ CBJ- - Stoker powered stainless steel cabinet smoker-Mini & 3 Regular UDS-BLUE Weber OTG-Saffire ceramic grill-26" plow disc-Green mountain pellet -Haulmark Competition trailer-

02-10-2011, 05:05 PM	#3
roksmith is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 04-21-09 Location: Marietta, Ohio Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'd guess $600-800 depending on how far we travel for us. __________________ 4000 sq inch Wood Burner named Brutus - KCSB member/judge# 32129

02-10-2011, 05:17 PM	#6
Rub is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 09-25-06 Location: Winter Haven, FL Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Probably right around $600. __________________ -Rub Swamp Boys “Give a man some BBQ and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to BBQ and you feed him for a lifetime.” --Swamp Boys Proverb Sponsored by Yoder Smokers, BBQR's Delight, 3 Eyz, Butcher BBQ, Grizzly Coolers, Wicked Q Gator Nation

02-10-2011, 05:06 PM	#4
rooftop bbq On the road to being a farker Join Date: 05-17-10 Location: menifee ca Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	about 650 we try and make about half it back in peoples choice

02-10-2011, 05:09 PM	#5
Spanx Got Wood. Join Date: 06-27-10 Location: Central Louisiana Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	$800+ when we do an MBN and under $500 when we do IBCA

02-10-2011, 06:29 PM	#7
Yazoo's Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 06-11-09 Location: Hernando, MS Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	For the average contest we spend about $750 or so at KCBS and around $1800 for a MBN contest (those whole hogs add up!) Obviously, driving distance, entrance fees and the like can add or subtract up to $400 to a contest. __________________ Pete C. Yazoo's Delta Q BBQ Team 2010 and 2012 World Champions MemphisBBQCO.com

02-10-2011, 06:50 PM	#8
ZILLA is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 12-01-05 Location: Universal City, Texas Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	95% of the comps I do average $250.00 in expenses the rest run between $300-$350 with Pasadena running $600.00 (That includes two nights at a Holiday Inn Express).

02-10-2011, 06:55 PM	#9
HawgNationBBQ Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 05-17-09 Location: Phoenixville, PA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We spend about $1,000.00 per KCBS event. That includes entry fee, travel, (2) hotels, competition food, meals, and alcohol. __________________ Michael KCBS, Certified Judge# 31757, MABA member -- JAMBO / J-3 -- Backwoods Competitor -- Ugly Drum Smoker -- XL BGE HAWG Nation on Twitter: @HawgNationBBQ www.TheBestMeatRub.com

02-10-2011, 07:45 PM	#10
goodbuddiesbbq is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 11-24-09 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Would spreading the payouts...bring more money and competition? Lets say a contest pays $10,000. Overall Top 5 Get Paid: GC - Gets $2000 RGC - Gets $1200 3rd - Gets $400 4th - Gets $240 5th - Gets $160 Would you consider those payouts weak for 1st & 2nd? Category Gets: 1st - $400 2nd -$300 3rd - $200 4th - $150 5th - $100 6th - $90 7th - $80 8th - $70 9th - $60 10th - $50 In a scenario like this...I would say that probably 3-4 teams would make money or break even. Possibly another 4-6 teams would recover at least half of their expenses. My opinion is this...if an event has a lot of teams competing (50 or more), there are probably 3-5 teams that could say they had the best stuff on that day IMO. However, with different judging tables, no matter weak or strong, the top can be separated by only a few points. Currently, it seems like 2-3 people make money or break even and 2-3 teams might get half back, maybe. I compete with a team that has had some pretty good success, but in a comp with 70 teams and getting 3 mid range category calls and a finish less than 2nd...we walked with a $100. 1 bad table away from making some real noise (chicken was good, judges were wrong). In this scenario, we would have walked with $440 and probably only lost $250. Instead, we eat $650 and walk back with so many trophies it looks like we robbed a senior bowling league. Trophies are nice, but I'd rather compete more often. Are more people in favor of winner take all (McCain/Palin) or share the wealth (Obama/Biden)? Trickle Down Economics meets BBQ! And if this is my 3rd Strike...let it be...Obama 2012! Don't you remove this Jorge!

02-10-2011, 07:56 PM	#11
Smokenstein & monster crew Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 03-13-10 Location: Selden, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Lots of time & patience......... its actually all priceless, the fun, spending time with family friends & the BBQ community __________________ Smokenstein & The Monster Crew Whats created in the lab, stays in the lab. Hardcore scary good BBQ from a family of four My smoker will eat your WSM for breakfast Custom 55 gallon drum(s) smoker that chews wood spits out the embers. (no set it & forget it BBQ stuff for me)

02-10-2011, 07:57 PM	#12
Jeff Hughes is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 02-03-06 Location: tulsa oklahoma Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That's a good payout schedule. The GC, RGC and categories are typical for this area. We often see a fifth category. We never see payment down 5 overall in a 10k comp. I like the way you did it. __________________ Klose 72" Mobile Medium BGE HastyBake Legacy 22" Weber Kettle(10 bucks@garage sale)

02-10-2011, 08:00 PM	#13
Mister Bob is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 06-15-09 Location: New Windsor, NY Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	About $700 to $800 depending on how far we travel. __________________ Mister Bob, Pitmaster - Bob's Hogs KCBS CBJ #31759 - IMBAS Certified MOINK Baller The Hog Blog BBQ Tips, Tricks and Recipes Custom 84" offset trailer Black Betty (ram-a-lam), red Stumps Baby, large BGE (they don't come in red), Smoke-EZ 26.75" Weber OTG, UDS, Mini UDS, Weber gasser, red and black Aussie Walkabout red BBQ Guru CyberQ II, Super fast and super accurate red Thermapen

02-10-2011, 08:02 PM	#14
TooSaucedToPork Take a breath! Join Date: 09-23-09 Location: Buffalo NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We do about $500 a contest in KCBS. $700 for a MBN. And about $8500 for Memphis in May That's Gas, Meat, Entry, Booze, well everything... Neil __________________ "We're a drinking team...with a BBQ problem" http://www.toosaucedtopork.com

02-10-2011, 08:06 PM	#15
jbrink01 is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 08-17-06 Location: Washington, Missouri Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	About $750. __________________ KCBS #13207 **2013 Insane Can Posse Tour** Sponsored By: *Gateway BBQ Store* *Blues Hog BBQ Company* *Plowboys BBQ Company*

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