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Old 07-21-2018, 08:11 PM   #1
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Butt, ploughboys yardbird + braggs liquid aminos + fish sauce to make the rub slightly wet, straight pecan wood fire.

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Old 07-21-2018, 08:16 PM   #2
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Got my over 'n under about a month ago, this is my 4th go, first time with an upgraded fire grate. Smoked that today for inlaws coming over tomorrow to swim because I'd rather hang in the pool than cook all day on a Sunday....especially if inlaws are gonna be here. Generally I stick to apple wood, oak, and hickory. This is my first smoke ever with pecan because it was on clearance at academy. Upgraded fire grate is absolutely a huge difference.....I've never had a stick burner before until now and with new fire grate I could hold this thing anywhere between 225 and 400 as long as I wanted to feed it. I'm so happy and it's such a huge upgrade (IMO and for my preference) from my 22.5 WSM that I gave to my Dad.

Menu tomorrow is gonna be slaw, baked beans, pulled pork, and a coconut cream pie my wife made.
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Old 07-21-2018, 10:21 PM   #5
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Got my over 'n under about a month ago, this is my 4th go, first time with an upgraded fire grate. Smoked that today for inlaws coming over tomorrow to swim because I'd rather hang in the pool than cook all day on a Sunday....especially if inlaws are gonna be here. Generally I stick to apple wood, oak, and hickory. This is my first smoke ever with pecan because it was on clearance at academy. Upgraded fire grate is absolutely a huge difference.....I've never had a stick burner before until now and with new fire grate I could hold this thing anywhere between 225 and 400 as long as I wanted to feed it. I'm so happy and it's such a huge upgrade (IMO and for my preference) from my 22.5 WSM that I gave to my Dad.

Menu tomorrow is gonna be slaw, baked beans, pulled pork, and a coconut cream pie my wife made.
what firegrate did you go to?
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Old 07-21-2018, 10:42 PM   #6
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I’ve been looking at some of the Old Country smokers. I think I remember reading some reviews of the fire box (at least maybe the cover) warping pretty badly. Have you had any problems like that? Was wondering if it has anything to do with the specs on the smoker saying to use charcoal as fuel.
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I’ve been looking at some of the Old Country smokers. I think I remember reading some reviews of the fire box (at least maybe the cover) warping pretty badly. Have you had any problems like that? Was wondering if it has anything to do with the specs on the smoker saying to use charcoal as fuel.
they are Not charcoal smokers - they nned to change the description.
Pecos had a problem with the lid warping/twisting on cook chamber - they added braces to the lid about 2 years ago.
Over n Under lid sometimes warped slightly so it didn't shut Well so they changed the lid to an overlapping lid and so it has a folded lip on edge that also Helps keep it from warping (kinda of like How Ribs Help strengthen lighter gauge metal).........

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what firegrate did you go to?
So, I went a bit unconventional.

I got one of these: https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/out...dCatid=4263580 then I got this: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt...1417/204225783 and laid it over the top. I just have it all free-floating at the moment, but I intend to grab some stainless bolts/nuts/fender washers and permanently attach the expanded steel to the top of the grill grate in the very near future.

For 25 bucks and no welding, cutting, or any real effort, I'd call it a winner.
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you can take the stock firegrate and weld or bolt on an angle iron frame to it so it won't warp then cut the center out and bolt or weld in expanded metal. 2 pieces criss crossed 90* to each other is even Better.
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they are Not charcoal smokers - they nned to change the description.
Pecos had a problem with the lid warping/twisting on cook chamber - they added braces to the lid about 2 years ago.
Over n Under lid sometimes warped slightly so it didn't shut Well so they changed the lid to an overlapping lid and so it has a folded lip on edge that also Helps keep it from warping (kinda of like How Ribs Help strengthen lighter gauge metal)
Thanks for the info. Was at Academy yesterday and had hoped to see one, but my local only had the Smokehouse. Will say that I spent most of my time in the store looking at the Smokehouse.
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Thanks for the info. Was at Academy yesterday and had hoped to see one, but my local only had the Smokehouse. Will say that I spent most of my time in the store looking at the Smokehouse.
Burleson had 2 Over n Unders a cpl Days ago........

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you can take the stock firegrate and weld or bolt on an angle iron frame to it so it won't warp then cut the center out and bolt or weld in expanded metal. 2 pieces criss crossed 90* to each other is even Better.
Yeah, I weighed all my options, but for all the tons of tools I have, I don't have an angle grinder or welder (yet...workin on the missus) so it was just easier to spend 25 bucks and be done :P With this setup, if I build a decent fire and have the intakes all the way open it'll cruise at 400 no joke. Halfway open puts me around 275-300.

Couple more smokes to be a bit more comfortable runnin' a stick burner and I'll do my first brisket on it. So far, I can maintain the temp range I want for about 8 hrs before it starts goin haywire. Fortunately, if temps crash, I can toss some extra logs on it and hit it with the weed burner for a minute or two and get it back up plenty hot :D
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